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To: proud2bRC
(response to post 18)Question: Which text is yours, and which is the text being quoted? Is it just the text in quotations marks? Also, how does one get on the catholic_list?

In response to all of the posts, I like the intelligent comments so far. I'm glad that the Catholic bashers haven't showed up yet. I was born after Vatican II, and I've yet to go to a Tridentine Mass. I think I would like it, since I love the sound of plainchant, and I've taken 2 years of Latin in high school and college. I don't know about you, but it seems like the "traditionalists" who are labeling everyone else "neo-Catholics" are more belligerent than the "neos" are towards them.

21 posted on 12/23/2001 8:14:18 PM PST by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
The text is mine, except the "Note on "Integrism / Integrists" paragraph.

I purposely did not directly address the issues raised in the article or in the SSPX bishop's interview. I just want to strongly warn average Catholics to not wade lightly into this schismatic traditionalist quagmire. I have lost close friends to this sinister and seductive set of errors (again, the schismatic traditionalists errors, not the traditionalists who simply prefer the Tridentine mass while accepting the validity of the new mass.)

Once in the tar pit, it is very hard to get back out. I almost fell in myself, and I'm currently trying to extricate 2 others at present.

23 posted on 12/23/2001 8:40:04 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Pyro7480
For the *Catholic_list bump list, you have to go to the Free Republic web page for the *Catholic_list.

There you will find a list of threads that folks have "bumped" to the *Catholic_list, and you can choose which ones to view and/or follow.

26 posted on 12/23/2001 8:53:43 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Pyro7480
I don't know about you, but it seems like the "traditionalists" who are labeling everyone else "neo-Catholics" are more belligerent than the "neos" are towards them.

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I find many Catholics on Free Republic, at least, who are quite antagonistic towards their brethren who prefer the Tridentine rite. And in my personal experience IRL, I've come across several priests who nearly sneer in reference to the Tridentine rite. One priest in particular, when he found out I had begun attending a Tridentine rite Mass regularly that was slightly farther away from home than my home parish, chided me that the Tridentine rite was allowed for only those Catholics who lived before Vatican II, and that us "youngins" should be going to Novus Ordo. Like it was some cute charitable act of kindess by the Church to allow the Tridentine rite for old fogies. This was also the same priest who, when I went in for confession, surprised him by walking around the curtain to do a face-to-face confession (which I prefer, as it keeps me more accountable) -- he was flipping through a copy of MacWorld with his Book of Prayers closed and on the coffee table next to him. He didn't ask me for an act of contrition, and his absolution consisted of "God forgives you. Go in peace."

34 posted on 12/23/2001 9:22:30 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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