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Doctor who treated Lincoln killer to get day in court
Philly.com ^
| 12/23/01
| Edward Colimore
Posted on 12/23/2001 5:37:04 AM PST by shuckmaster
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To: ConfederateMissouri;viligantcitizen; LadyJD;ouroboros;mrswasp69;WhowasGustavusFox...
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To: shuckmaster
Guilt is guilt. How you arrive at that verdict is not important.
To: shuckmaster
It's interesting the associations the media will make to try to overturn the use of military tribunals. I think it's as much about the 'ratings' they won't get with a closed tribunal as it is about any constitutional issues.
Think of the huge number of readers and viewers the media would have with a public circus trial.
With a military tribunal all they'd have is 'undisclosed sources'.
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
It is to be remembered that in 1865, Lincoln was not a Republican. I thought Lincoln was a Republican from before he became President until his death. Can you inform me differently and a source to research?
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
In those days Democrats were predominant in the army... Whatever the Army was pre-war, it swelled enormously with anti-slavery Republicans during the Civil War. All the post Civil War presidents who had served in the War ran as Republicans. I'm agnostic about the guilt of Mudd and Mary Surratt, though the actions of both certainly invite suspicion. BTW, wasn't network newman Roger Mudd a descendant as well.
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
Nice delusions. I also like how you attack Lincoln for decisions made by others after he was dead.
Dr. Mudd was tried for complicity in an act of war during a time when the Civil War was not finished. Confederate forces west and south of Lee had yet to surrender. Much of the Rebel government had yet to be accounted for by the Union. Military tribunals were quite appropriate, just as they are now.
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12/23/2001 5:57:56 AM PST
by
LenS
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
A classic example of the folly to come from military tribunals. And the O.J. Trial is a classic example of the folly that comes from civilian trials.
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posted on
12/23/2001 5:59:46 AM PST
by
Polybius
To: shuckmaster
The U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit has now granted a hearing, as yet unscheduled, and Gagner will have an opportunity to again recount the crucial hours on the morning of April 15, 1865, at Mudd's Bryantown, Md., farmhouse. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of real-world cases that can't get a hearing so why is our court system wasting its time on a case where all the witnesses are dead and the remaining "evidence" is suspect?
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posted on
12/23/2001 6:09:28 AM PST
by
JCG
To: shuckmaster
Gagner has said a disguised Booth and David E. Herold arrived at 4:30 a.m., seeking medical attention for Booth's broken leg, then left that afternoon. Booth broke the leg when he jumped from Lincoln's box to the Ford Theater stage after shooting the President the night before.Little mentioned by the media in the Mudd saga is the fact that Mudd and Booth had at least four meetings prior to the night Booth showed up at Mudd's home for medical attention. It was therefore not a spontaneous, coincidental event -- Mudd likely was part of the genuine conspiracy among Booth et al. to decapitate the U.S. Government by attacks upon the President, Vice-President, and Secretary of State.
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12/23/2001 6:11:20 AM PST
by
Ironword
To: shuckmaster
The conviction has been an embarrassment and shame for the family for too long, said Thomas MuddI guess they don't want their name to be 'MUDD" anymore. (Sorry, I just couldn't help myself, and besides, no one ELSE had said it!)
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12/23/2001 6:14:35 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: shuckmaster
Bump
To: shuckmaster
This just in: The Washington D. C. Police Department, when asked to comment on this story said, "Lincoln was shot?"
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posted on
12/23/2001 6:19:22 AM PST
by
RickGee
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To: RickGee
LOL!
To: Libertarianize the GOP
Yes, Lincoln was a Republican.
The "Union Party" was the Republican Party.
The Party temporarily changed it's name for the election.
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posted on
12/23/2001 6:48:18 AM PST
by
mrsmith
To: Libertarianize the GOP
Perhaps the writer means that in 1864 the Republican Party (for that election only) changed is name to the "Union Party" and recruited the hapless Andrew Johnson, a former TN "Democrat" for the vice presidency. But Lincoln was the first "Republican" elected under the banner of the party that still calls itself "Republican" though it sometimes (as in the 2001 "education" bill) acts "democratic" in practice.
To: LLAN-DDEUSANT; Libertarianize the GOP
This is from the "History of the Republican Party":
Ensuing battle, resentment over the draft and taxes, and the failures of the military leadership delivered Lincoln and the Republicans into the 1864 campaign with scant hope for victory. Party leaders saw the opportunity to broaden the base of the party and adopted the name National Union Party. Andrew Johnson of Tennessee, a "War" Democrat, was nominated as Lincoln's running mate. Significant military victories transpired before election day and contributed to Lincoln's overwhelming reelection.
My conclusion is that Lincoln ran under a name created by Republican leaders and that he was still a Republican.
To: Shooter 2.5
I found the same info.
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