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To: Exnihilo
First, I am not a Creationist.

sniker. yeah sure. ha ha ha.

Why do you creationists think it is so cool to be stealthy about being creationists? I've termed this "Liars for Christ." Apparently the goal of asserting the biblical accounting is so important that lying is justified in its pursuit.

Look, we all know that ID'ers and creationists what to turn science to their view -- and they've given up on just Biblical fire and brimestone because no one was buying it anymore, except the faithful.

So the only route into science is the so-called "objective neutrality." So creationists and ID'ers who are actually Biblical absolutists sneak around and pretend they are just students of "objective neutrality."

Hogwash. And besides, reality has certain characteristics. It is not open ended to any interpretation. One can reasonably deduce certain interpretations and STICK to that in the face of rather ridiculous claims to the contrary.

This whole notion that each Creationist/ID'er brain fart ought be entitled to a complete rehearing is laughable.

Produce the evidence FOR your view. Assaults agains evolution are just attempts to prove a negative and therefore a complete waste of time, since that is almost impossible to do.

So stop sneaking around pretending to be someone you aren't. If you believe in creation or ID (intelligent design) produce the fricking evidence for it!!!!!!!!

29 posted on 12/22/2001 8:09:27 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: jlogajan
Why do you creationists think it is so cool to be stealthy about being creationists? I've termed this "Liars for Christ." Apparently the goal of asserting the biblical accounting is so important that lying is justified in its pursuit.

Anyone who voices even the meekest criticism of Darwinism gets the usual ad-hominem hysterical pregnancies from you.

Why does it bother you so much that people disagree with you?

42 posted on 12/22/2001 8:50:24 PM PST by denydenydeny
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To: jlogajan
"produce the fricking evidence for it!!!!!!!!"....Patience my friend ..patience....*VBG* In due time it will be apparent to you!..Have a nice day!
48 posted on 12/22/2001 9:00:18 PM PST by mtman
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To: jlogajan
"One can reasonably deduce certain interpretations and STICK to that in the face of rather ridiculous claims to the contrary."

Not at the expense of sweeping inconsistencies under the rug, one can't. We do not know the answer to this question. As much as I do not like the creationist's desire to tell me what the creator has in mind, I also do not like the materialist's desire to explain away human consciousness (soul?) using his latest Lego set.
63 posted on 12/22/2001 9:26:33 PM PST by gjenkins
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To: jlogajan
I tell you what. The only evidence that you have demonstrated so far is your massive disdain for we so-called "Creationists."

You care not for people of faith or their opinion, nor do you respect them for it.

However, in order to take the evolutionary stance on how we got here takes a massive amount of FAITH. Guess it's just a matter of what you have that faith in, isn't it?

87 posted on 12/23/2001 6:31:11 AM PST by rdb3
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