[Hajman]

Now, take your example of the human brain. It along with the rest of our anatomy is determined by our genes. I don't see any reason there couldn't be a sequence of small changes that take a gemone incapable of developing a brain to one that does. Each step adds information so again there's no greater information in the output than is input. And yet I take it you consider the development of the brain a case of macroevolution.

Compare it with a bacteria, and it is. Somewhere down the line the function shifted from output <= input to output > input. If you want to convince me, explain to me the conversion function, or explain to me the function that would allow such to happen. I'll look at Koza's technique, however, I have yet to see an algorithm that can shift from output <= input to output > input without an external function (or built in. But everything I've seen for evolutionary algorithms are tightly bound to the first, and doesn't allow the second, due to information limits inate within the evolutionary algorithm). Also, no amount of iterations on an output <= input function can produce an output > input result (that can be demonstrated several ways. The easiest is if A<=B then A*c<=B*c (or c(A<=B)=true for iteration synatx of summation(Ac<=Bc,c,1,inf)). This is essentially Micro Evolution. Small changes that alter existing structures/information, and give no true new structures/information. I don't put much trust on Macro Evolution because it'd need a conversion to move from A<=B to A>B. That's why I ask for a function to shift from Micro to Macro, and that's why I don't believe iterations of Micro can shift to Macro.

-The Hajman-

[edsheppa]

Somewhere down the line the function shifted from output <= input to output > input.

Again, I just don't see this. To be specific, I don't see anything in the biological world that's not the output of some conceivable sequence of input given the kind of "primitive" life we have good reason to think existed about 4B years ago. In the last post I addressed your example of the brain. Did you find some deficiency in my explanation?

Also, no amount of iterations on an output <= input function can produce an output > input result

And again, each step in the process adds some small bit of information so the output isn't greater than the input.