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India and Pakistan on the brink of war
Times.UK ^ | DECEMBER 22 2001

Posted on 12/22/2001 6:01:53 AM PST by TopQuark

India and Pakistan on the brink of war
FROM COOMI KAPOOR IN DELHI AND ZAHID HUSSAIN IN ISLAMABAD
INDIA and Pakistan moved closer to a state of war yesterday, as Delhi recalled its envoy from Islamabad and sealed border crossings and both sides deployed thousands of reinforcements along their frontier.

The sabre-rattling raised fears around the world that the two nuclear powers were on the brink of a new round of bloodshed, which would undermine the international coalition’s war against terror in the region.

India began the escalation when it withdrew Vijay Nambiar, its High Commissioner in Islamabad. The move is more than a symbolic diplomatic protest.

Only twice before, in 1965 and again in 1971, has Delhi recalled its envoy. On each occasion the two countries were at war shortly afterwards.

The action followed growing demands across the political spectrum in India for the Army to attack two militant Islamic groups that are based across the border in Pakistan and accused of carrying out the attack last week on the Indian Parliament that left 14 dead, including the five assailants.

India and Pakistan last clashed in 1999 in a mountain battle at Kargil in the disputed Kashmir province. Hundreds of Indian and Pakistani troops were killed.

This time the stakes are even higher. In addition to reinforcements along the Line of Control, which separates the two sides in Kashmir, tanks, artillery and infantry have also been deployed along the normally peaceful Rajasthan-Sind border.

Yesterday’s escalation began when India launched a verbal assault against its historic rival, accusing Pakistan of “sponsoring last week’s suicide attack on the Indian Parliament”. Pakistan hit back by charging the Indians with provocation and warning Delhi that it would defend itself if attacked.

The threats and counter- threats caused alarm in Washington and London, which are preoccupied with trying to complete their operations against terrorist suspects in Afghanistan and instal a new government in Kabul. To achieve that they need stability in the region and the help of President Musharraf of Pakistan.

Western sources said that they feared that the Pakistani leader was not able to control elements of his military and intelligence services, who were deliberately encouraging extremist groups in the hope of provoking a clash with India.

Western officials privately appealed to India to show restraint, but the Government in Delhi was under mounting public pressure to respond decisively.

In addition to recalling its envoy, India cut road and rail links, including the DelhiLahore bus service, which was opened only two years ago as part of a peace drive between the two neighbours.

The Indian authorities alleged that the five gunmen involved in last week’s gun and grenade attack were members of Lashkar-e-Taiba and Jaish-e-Muhammad, two Kashmiri rebel groups based in Pakistan.

Indian investigators claim that the conspiracy to storm Parliament House in Delhi was hatched in Pakistan and that the cellphone records of the dead assailants and the confessions of those arrested for abetting them establish Pakistan’s involvement.

On Thursday the Indian Government produced one of the accused, an Indian named Kashmiri Mohammed Afzal, before the media. He said that the suicide squad was from Pakistan and that he was the link man between them and Jaish-e-Muhammad.

The Indian Government is upset by what it considers the US’s refusal to accept the evidence of Pakistan’s role in continuing to foment terrorism in India and believes that the US is deliberately turning a blind eye because it does not want General Musharraf to be destabilised.

Pakistan has rejected India’s accusations that its intelligence service supported the attack and said that it would take no action until India supplied proof. India on Thursday rejected a US request to share its evidence with Pakistan so that General Musharraf could crack down on the militants.

Most defence observers agree that the situation in the region is the most serious since May 1999 when Pakistan’s military intrusion in Kashmir brought the two nations close to a full war. The danger was averted when Pakistan pulled out its troops from Kashmir’s Kargil mountain post under US pressure.



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To: ARCADIA
Note how tight the ChiComs are with Mexico? We could have one such front within our borders faster than you think. Consider the US operating without a port and refinery capability in LA. Not only are we in a precarious position on energy, did you know that we are a food-importing nation? Do we have enough people to grow it without those Mexican farmworkers?

The noose is tighter than you think. To win this one, people had better start planning their preparations carefully. BLOAT

81 posted on 12/22/2001 11:47:20 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Dog Gone

Question...



How closly aligned is India with China? The answer will surprise you.


82 posted on 12/22/2001 11:48:01 AM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
They are not aligned with China at all. If you are going to prove otherwise, that would surprise me, indeed.
83 posted on 12/22/2001 11:49:51 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
We agree completely. It sucks. Completely irrational. The end game is worse. The situation may be more of an indicator of the weakness of India's ruling coalition and perhaps its need to maintain military support (much of which is Sikh as I recall) in order to put down likely anarchy and rebellion within India's substantial Muslim minority.

This is what you get with democracy. That's why the globo-facsists love it so.

84 posted on 12/22/2001 11:54:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: AM2000, Aaron_A
Bump!
85 posted on 12/22/2001 11:57:12 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: vannrox
Not very close.
86 posted on 12/22/2001 11:58:30 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: Carry_Okie
Be careful. As soon as you voice less than 100% support for India, no matter what, you will be called an "Islamist" by some folks here, whatever the hell that is.
87 posted on 12/22/2001 12:08:59 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: JUSTICE_FOR_ALL
JFA is a DBDKI (Disruptor But Doesn't Know It).

/Ignore

88 posted on 12/22/2001 12:12:38 PM PST by kinghorse
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To: kinghorse
I'm quite confident that he is a previously banned Freeper, AMERICAN_PATRIOT_FOR DEMOCRACY, who simply re-registered. I caught him faking a Reuters quote a couple of days ago. He's quick to insult and doesn't mind lying to promote his agenda.

He warned me yesterday that I am "being WATCHED." I'm still quaking.

89 posted on 12/22/2001 12:23:55 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: JUSTICE_FOR_ALL
Thank you for proving my point.
92 posted on 12/22/2001 12:32:09 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Thank you for proving my point. BUMP
93 posted on 12/22/2001 12:48:40 PM PST by JamminJAY
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To: StopTheGuilt
This was will no doubt complicate the situation for us but if we were in India's shoes what would we do? Right after Sept 11 we knew that it had to be bin Laden. India in my view has shown us enough evidence to justify attacking Pakistan. Unless we can provide India with a gurantee that Pakistanis will NEVER support any terrorist action against India we have to let India defend themselves. Otherwise we are just following in the footsteps of the loony left which was telling us that we couldn't attack the Taliban.
94 posted on 12/22/2001 12:50:39 PM PST by MaxwellWolf
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To: TopQuark
THE INDIAN SCENARIO: FROM BAD TO WORSE

By Richard Reeves
WASHINGTON -- The harder part of the American war against terrorism began last week as Taliban and al-Qaida fighters in large numbers began to cross from Afghanistan into Pakistan along ancient smugglers' trails through the mountains that divide the countries. And then, in a plan from hell, a Pakistani suicide squad attacked the Indian Parliament meeting in New Delhi.

95 posted on 12/22/2001 12:57:06 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Dog Gone
LOL! I've been called everything from an athiest to a Palestinian apologist lately. Both laughable as you know. My cultural and historic predispositions are with India. I just don't want to see the entirety of Southern Asia blow up all at once. I don't think that it would serve anybody in the long run. Just shows how stupid all those expat globocorpses were to chase a quick buck by relocating down there. It certainly points to my market rate of weighted risk thesis.
96 posted on 12/22/2001 1:02:31 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: Pay now bill Clinton
, I think it's a good bet that these bases will be nuked along Quite the oppposite, even by the rules of engagement: India would be attacking American troops obl;igated to act in self-defenese.

Moreover, these bases are rented from the Pakistani government but they are American. An attack on them is quite like attacking America itself. Indian government would never do that knowingly.

97 posted on 12/22/2001 1:03:55 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: JUSTICE_FOR_ALL
The stupidity of some Freepers crops up once in a while, in what is normally a very intelligent, lively, and intellectually stimulating forum. What a well-informed observation for someone who has been a member for only 3 (three) days!

Justice, have you been expelled before only to come back under a new name? Perhaps, someone should tell you: you were expelled not because of your name but becasue of your name-calling, such as in the above-quotes sentence.

Could you please try to express your thoughts with a bit more courtesy expected and granted in a public place?

98 posted on 12/22/2001 1:09:54 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: Carry_Okie
The last thing America wants to see is India and Pakistan at war. Leaving aside the nuclear issue (which is hard to do), it would destabilize both countries.

My belief is that the US foreign policy is to prevent destabilization, unless we can use it to promote an outcome that is demonstrably better. That wouldn't be the case in an Indian-Pakistani war.

We have Musharraf in our pocket. We forced him to disavow Islamic Fundamentalism and chart Pakistan's course toward the west. It was a major coup by President Bush, and the long term implications of having of pro-western Pakistan are large.

Concurrently, the US mended some fences with India and we stand on the threshold of a relationship which could reap enormous benefits for both countries.

All of this would be put at risk if those two countries go to war.

The problem is that we have limited influence with both of them. We can't force them to behave rationally, because their animosity toward each other is far greater than their concern for better relations with us.

But we certainly can't side with one country over the other. Not only would that jeopardize any future relationship with the country we chose against, but it's not possible for either country to truly win such a war. That's a tarbaby that we want nothing to do with.

I assume that we are using whatever influence we have with these countries to de-escalate the tension, because avoidance of war is our main goal. But despite the fact that the terrorists who were responsible of the parliament attack may have been Pakistanis, India is the one who is about to start a war.

If a German commits a crime in the US, even a grievous one, declaring war on Germany isn't one of the options we consider. If India has evidence that the Pakistani government was behind those attacks, then they should declare war and get it on. I'd support them.

But that's not what happened, and I think India knows that. We'll have to wait to see if this all bluff, or whether India is really going to start an almost certain nuclear war over this. I wish I had more confidence in their ability to be rational about this, but I don't.

100 posted on 12/22/2001 1:19:53 PM PST by Dog Gone
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