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CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER FAILURE CONTAINMENT TEAM SCHEME Fails in its 1st Effort
O'REILLY FACTOR, The New York Times | 12-22-01 | Mia T

Posted on 12/22/2001 4:39:54 AM PST by Mia T

2-21-01
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails in its 1st Effort
 
Bill O'Reilly Laughs Lanny Davis Off Stage
 
Calls "It's the economy, stupid" an Utter Absurdity Post-9/11
by Mia T

NEW YORK, Dec 21--Diehard clinton lackey, Lanny Davis tested the CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme in what the clintons likely regard their most difficult venue, "The O'Reilly Factor," The top-rated Fox News show demonstrated once again that its motto, "the no spin zone," is no spin.

The eponymous host swiftly stopped the spin (and the spin). O'Reilly debunked all the shameless clinton-directed revisionism spewed by Davis, exposing the absurdity of the CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme even as he underscored clinton's immutable legacy of depravity and failure.

 



December 21, 2001

Clinton and Aides Lay Plans to Repair a Battered Image

By RICHARD L. BERKE

WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 -- Even after Bill Clinton was elected president, his campaigning never seemed to stop. In the White House, he was always keenly attentive to polls and political calculations and presided over what became known as a "permanent campaign."

Now, Mr. Clinton is trying to extend the permanent campaign even beyond his presidency.

Frustrated that his image has been battered since he left office, Mr. Clinton summoned several of his aides and advisers on Wednesday to devise ways to remind the public of his accomplishments and defend his legacy against criticism on matters including his role in the current recession and his failure to strike a fatal blow against Osama bin Laden or his terrorist network after the embassy bombings in East Africa in 1998.
Several participants at the meeting in Mr. Clinton's Harlem office said in interviews that they had agreed to compile a list of the Clinton administration's achievements that his supporters could have handy when defending the president. They hope to build a staff that will coordinate efforts to enlist former cabinet secretaries and other Clinton surrogates to appear on television talk shows and deliver speeches. And they are making plans to raise Mr. Clinton's profile on the lecture circuit, particularly before college audiences, which are most receptive.

Participants in the session said Mr. Clinton was concerned that Democratic leaders had not sufficiently spoken up for his administration, especially his centrist policies on health care, welfare, crime and education. As part of the campaign to refurbish his image, Mr. Clinton wants to play a central role in setting an issue agenda for the Democrats and for the party's aspiring Congressional and presidential candidates, his advisers said.

No modern president has ever mounted such an aggressive and organized drive to affect the agenda after leaving the White House.

"It's important that the president's legacy not be squandered because his own people remain silent and scattered," said Bill Richardson, Mr. Clinton's energy secretary, who like many others took part through a telephone hookup. "It's important that the Democratic Party not turn away from Clinton's centrist legacy that brought us economic prosperity."

Several participants said they did not want to discuss the meeting out of respect for Mr. Clinton's privacy. Others also acknowledged that they were worried that Mr. Clinton could be portrayed as preoccupied with his reputation and not conducting himself appropriately for a former president.

"I feel very uncomfortable talking about these meetings," said Sandy Berger, Mr. Clinton's former national security adviser.

"As far as I'm concerned, it was a private meeting, so I'm not going to say anything," said Al From, the executive director of the Democratic Leadership Council.

Others, insisting they had nothing to hide, were not so reluctant.

Rodney Slater, Mr. Clinton's transportation secretary, said an impetus for the meeting was to make sure that the former president's policies were still in the public discourse.

"As much as anything, it was to recognize that we were part of something special," Mr. Slater said, "that there were still opportunities out there for us to express opinions about things and professional judgments."

Douglas Sosnik, who was Mr. Clinton's political director and later one of his most senior aides, put it this way: "Under President Clinton's leadership, we accomplished a remarkable amount in the last eight years, and his friends feel we should be doing a better job of getting that out proactively. Since he left office, we've spent too much time on the defensive, reacting to stories."

Gene Sperling, who was Mr. Clinton's top economic aide, said, "Most of the conversation was really about what kind of things he should be doing with his time, what his long- term service contributions should be."

Julia Payne, Mr. Clinton's spokeswoman, said she would have no comment about "a private meeting."

While Mr. Clinton had held meetings with advisers before, participants described this one as having a special urgency.

Mr. Clinton dominated the session, which lasted nearly two hours, participants said. They said he was careful not to criticize President Bush. And they said that while he expressed concern that he was being blamed for not catching Osama bin Laden, most of the discussion was about how to raise his profile and press his case on domestic matters.

Even during his presidency, Mr. Clinton was deeply interested in how he would be perceived by history. Now, the efforts to deploy surrogates to speak out for him are reminiscent of his vaunted war rooms in the White House, which were established for him to seize the political offensive on matters that included Whitewater and health care.

"He basically said our legacy is being pummeled and we have to find ways to revive it," said one participant, who described it as if it were a meeting of the top lieutenants of a political campaign. "We concluded that the Clinton hard core were not on message, and we had to develop a center of gravity. We have to remind people of what we did on the economy, what we did with the crime bill, what we did with terrorism." He added, "They're trying to pin the bin Laden thing on us."

Participants said that while some nice things were said about the Democratic leaders in Congress, Senator Tom Daschle and Representative Richard A. Gephardt, there was a view that they would only do so much to press the Clinton agenda. "The view was that House and Senate Democrats were too preoccupied with their own re-elections and their own deals," one participant said.

Other participants included Maggie Williams, Mr. Clinton's current chief of staff; John D. Podesta, Mr. Clinton's former chief of staff; Bruce Lindsey, Mr. Clinton confidant; Eli J. Segal, the former head of Mr. Clinton's national service organization; Steve Richetti, who was a deputy chief of staff; Maria Echavesta, a former deputy chief of staff; and Cheryl Mills, a deputy White House counsel. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York did not take part, nor did former Vice President Al Gore or any of his advisers.

Mr. Clinton's advisers said part of the discussion was over how active the former president should be in stumping for Democratic candidates next year. They said they had not reached a determination.

"He does not want to appear to be upstaging Bush," said one participant. "But the alternative to that is to continue to see his legacy vanish. Clinton said he was getting more of a positive response about his legacy with younger people."

Mr. Richardson, for one, said it was appropriate for Mr. Clinton to have a more public role.

"I'm pleased that the president will be more active in ensuring his legacy," he said.


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The Placebo President (aided and abetted by the media myrmidons of the left) strikes again...
by Mia T
 
What is most interesting about clinton's revisionist leaks is that the impeached ex-president has decided that incompetency is a preferable legacy to idiocy or a sui generis narcissistic sedition.

The Covert Hunt for bin Laden
Broad Effort Launched After '98 Attacks

By Barton Gellman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 19, 2001; Page A01

 

First of two articles

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TO BE CONTINUED...

compulsive clinton CYA-ing CONTINUES
(so does 4th-estate malfeasance)
Q ERTY6 REALITY CHECK!
 
 
 
hillary's head revisited:
hillary clinton's brain (such as it is) II
 by Mia T

The smartest woman in the world would relish "the raucous give and take of American democracy, " as Charles Kuralt once put it.

hillary clinton, by contrast, subsists on cozy clintonoid interviews of the Colmes kind...

In her new book, Political Fictions, Joan Didion indicts the fakery of access journalism practiced by vacant politicos like the clintons, whom she sees as "purveyors of fables of their own making, or worse, fables conceived by political strategists with designs on votes, not news."

(More Didion: "No one who ever passed through an American public high school could have watched William Jefferson Clinton running for office in 1992 and failed to recognize the familiar predatory sexuality of the provincial adolescent.")

 
 
Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women
the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

 
 
The Placebo President:
How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist
 
placebo effect n.
A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment
that arises from the patient's expectations concerning
the treatment rather than from the treatment itself.
 
Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you.
----Sylvia Plath
 
The placebo effect immediately came to mind
as I listened to Shelby Steele,
a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,
debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.
To wit:
A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;
clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.
 
The error in these statements arises, says Steele,
from the belief that
virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility
so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by
one's political positions on issues rather than on
whether or not in one's personal life there is a
consistency and a responsibility.
 
Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,
rather than being the amazing advantage
the clintons would have us believe,
in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.
 
If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous
then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,
that is to say they just represent virtuousness.
They don't necessarily do virtuous things.
 
If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,
clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,
systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .
 
I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.
I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,
producing a real, physiological and social effects.
 
The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.
Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.
The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:
act now, think later
 
bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.
Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."
And please he does
doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.
To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.
Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.
Or to confute his genuine vice.
 
clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)
at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...
or at the hint of high treason...
 
clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.
Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer
so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.
 
The efficaciousness of today's medicines
does not diminish the power of the placebo.
A recent review of placebo-controlled studies
found that placebos and genuine treatments
are often equally effective.
If you expect to get better, you will.
 
Which brings me back to the original question:
Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?
 
Clearly he cannot.
These two propositions are mutually exclusive.
clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.
He has violated his covenant with the American people.
 
Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,
he can no longer function even as a quack;
the placebo effect is gone.
And so the Placebo President must now go, too.
 
 

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize

 

 

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president.

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

 

Had George Will written Sleaze, the sequel (the "sequel" is, of course, hillary) after 9-11-01, I suspect that he would have had to forgo the above conceit, as the doubt expressed in the setup phrase was, from that day forward, no longer operational.

Indeed, assessing the clinton presidency an abject failure is not inconsistent with commentary coming from the left, most recently the LA Times: "Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize."

When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months.

It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism. (Meet the Press, 12-09-01), notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic self-exclusion. ("I knew nuttin'.")

If leftist pandering keeps the disenfranchized down in perpetuity, clinton pandering,("it's the economy, stupid"), kept the middle and upper classes wilfully ignorant for eight years.

And ironically, both results (leftist social policy and the clinton economy) are equally illusory, fraudulent. It is becoming increasingly clear that clinton assiduously avoided essential actions that would have negatively impacted the economy--the ultimate source of his continued power--actions like, say, going after the terrorists.

It is critically important that hillary clinton fail in her grasp for power; read Peggy Noonan's little book, 'The Case Against Hillary Clinton' and Barbara Olson's two books; it is critical that the West de-clintonize, but that will be automatic once it is understood that the clintons risked civilization itself in order to gain and retain power.

It shouldn't take books, however, to see that a leader is a dangerous, self-absorbed sicko. People should be able to figure that out for themselves. The electorate must be taught to think, to reason. It must be able to spot spin, especially in this age of the electronic demagogue.

I am not hopeful. As Bertrand Russell noted, "Most people would sooner die than think; in fact, they do so. "

Mia T, hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism

(SHE knew nuttin')

Meet the Press, 12-09-01

 

 

A Fish Rots from the Head

Investor's Business Daily

 
 
Ijaz, an admitted Clinton supporter who helped negotiate these opportunities to nab bin Laden, said, "The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening."
 
Ijaz says that three months before bin Laden's men blew up the USS Cole in Yemen, he "brought the White House another plausible offer to deal with bin Laden, by then known to be involved in the embassy bombings(in Tanzania and Kenya)... But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer."
 
Clinton's apparent boredom with vital information extended beyond Sudanese intelligence officers to his own intelligence officers. His first CIA director, James Woolsey, couldn't get a meeting with Clinton in the two years he served. Woolsey left the Clinton administration disgusted with
its slovenly approach to national security. ...
 
To hear Clinton now say "We must do more to reduce the pool of potential
terrorists" is thus beyond farce. He had numerous opportunities to reduce
that pool, and he blew it.
 
The pool, in fact, grew larger on Clinton's watch, as he spent his final days giving pardons to drug dealers, Puerto Rican terrorists and Marc Rich, a fugitive who topped America's most-wanted list.
 

In this light, Clinton's order to the CIA that it not use "unsavory characters" to collect information pushes irony to its outer limits.


12-20-01
YOO-HOO Washington Post / Barton Gellman
 
Delta Force pilot:
Bin Laden was "in our crosshairs" 3 times during Clinton years, but couldn't get kill order from higher up.

From the article...

Three times after Aug. 20, 1998, when Clinton ordered the only missile strike of his presidency against bin Laden's organization, the CIA came close enough to pinpointing bin Laden that Clinton authorized final preparations to launch. In each case, doubts about the intelligence aborted the mission...

More than once, advisers recall, Clinton sounded out Gen. Henry H. Shelton, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, about the prospect of using Special Forces to surprise bin Laden's fighters on the ground. But Clinton declined to authorize the large-scale operation that Shelton said would be required, and he chose not to order a less ambitious option to which the general would have objected.


Amid all of the spin there are germs of truth...

I've been sitting on some info under the "loose lips" principle, but this article makes that no longer necessary. An Academy buddy of my cousin, himself a former Air Force pilot, is a Delta Force pilot. According to him, we had bin Laden "in our crosshairs" three times during the Clinton years, but couldn't get the kill order from higher up. His conclusion from the field was the reason for this failure was nothing more than a lack of the political will to get the job done.

Which leads, yet again, to the obvious question:

Would the attacks of 9/11 have happened, had President Clinton been up to the job with which he was entrusted?

7 posted on 12/18/01 10:12 PM Pacific by Sabertooth


I can't imagine that they would have happened if Clinton had done the job. 9/11 was the culmination of a series of increasingly brazen attacks on our interests, going all the way back to the original WTC bombing. As each attack happened, we were being watched by our enemies. They listened to what we said, but they really paid attention to what we did. And they eventually drew the conclusion that we were too weak and too soft to hit them back.

It's painfully clear now that we didn't do nearly enough. Clinton didn't have the intestinal fortitude to do what Bush is doing now. Why? There are probably a lot of reasons: his 60's mentality and its accompanying disdain for the military; his addiction to polls; his preoccupation with crushing his enemies; his pursuit of personal pleasure; or his lack of interest in foreign policy. But I think the biggest reason of all is this: Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk, more given to talk than to action. He was weak and soft at a time when he needed to be strong and resolute, and 9/11 was the result. He deserves nothing but contempt.

Gee, I guess character does matter, after all.

53 posted on 12/19/01 10:23 PM Pacific by Rainbow Rising

Q ERTY3 BUMP! 
 
Delta Force pilot: [W]e had bin Laden "in our crosshairs" three times during the Clinton years, but couldn't get the kill order from higher up.--Sabertooth
 
Bill Clinton, at his most basic level, is a weak, soft man, afraid to put his precious self at risk--Rainbow Rising
COWARD
by Mia T

clinton is the quintessential coward. He is especially cowardly about acts physical, notwithstanding (or, more accurately, underscored by) an apparent facility in committing rapes, predations and willful, premeditated, opportunistic killings (e.g., the Sudan bombing, the Ricky Ray Rector execution). . .

clinton cowardice knows no geographic bounds. We saw clinton cowardice in the Balkans...

 

We saw clinton cowardice in Africa...

 
It was caught on videotape there. Remember? Remember the fear, the abject hatred on clinton's Mr.-Hyde-transmogrified face? (His real face!) Remember the angry screams directed to the (in fact pro-clinton) black crowd as they came too close to his podium?

I suspect clinton cowardice accounted for the cancellation of his trip to Greece, its streets teeming with anti-clinton demonstrators. (The Greeks, you may recall, were trying clinton in effigy for his wag-the-dog, desperately-seeking-a-legacy mass murders in the Balkans.)

The world has clinton figured out: He is small, a greasy character, a degenerate, a predatory adolescent, a backwoods buffoon, a delusional if opportunistic narcissist. (Let us not forget that he was Nobel-Peace-Prize lobbying (read "hiring $100G-a-pop PR even as he imperiled Israel and empowered the terrorists").

While it is debatable whether clinton is most defined by his depravity, his narcissism or his cowardice, that he is in fact a coward is not open to question. If he won't go to Greece, with all the protections of the presidency, where will he go when we are finally rid of him? (Will we ever be finally rid of him?)

(That the backwoods, backroom duo thought they could spin the world as they did Arkansas is a measure of their stupidity. They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiber-optic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.)

Poetic justice in the end: clinton--both clintons, in fact--will be prisoners, both Cartesian and Freudian, of their own depravity, imprisioned in the hermetic confines of an evil, narcissistic life. Their world will finally and fittingly become as small as they, themselves, are.

Also:

The Left is redolent with the peculiar stench of sinking-ship-jumping 'Rats


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Q ERTY3 BUMP!
 
the operant definition of 'clinton classlessness' --
Although a reliable source had previously warned me about the wife's designs on the White House furnishing -- she had apparently acquired the nasty habit of pilfering from the White House drapery fund -- when I created the following metaphoric musing a year before the clintons "moved," I never imagined that she would -- that they would -- in real life -- in real time -- actually swipe the sofa.
 
Smaller objects neatly tuck-able in nuncupative deals & unnumbered Swiss accounts, without question...

BUT THE SOFA??

Jan. 1, 2000
 
hillary's "interior" design scheme
(an animated how-to)

by Mia T

copyright Mia T 2000

The White House Booty
 
 
Letters .. thanked Lee and Joy Ficks for their 1993 donation of a
kitchen set to the White House. Joy Ficks said she was surprised to
hear the Clintons are keeping the kitchen set as a personal gift.

White House Gifts List

 
 
 
• $19,900 two sofas, an easy chair and an ottoman from Steve Mittman,
New York.
 
• $3,650 kitchen table and four chairs from Lee Ficks, Cincinnati.
 
• $2,843 sofa from Brad Noe, High Point, N.C.
 
• $1,170 lamps from Stuart Schiller, Hialeah, Fla.
 
• $1,000 needlepoint rug from David Martinous, Little Rock.
 
Following are gifts the Clintons received in 2000 and are paying for:
 
• $9,433 china cabinet, chandelier and a copy of President Lincoln's
Cooper Union speech from Walter and Selma Kaye, New York.
 
• $7,375 two coffee tables and two chairs from Denise Rich, New York.
 
• $7,000 dining room table, server and golf club from Mr. and Mrs. Ron
Dozoretz, Washington.
 
• $6,282 two carpets from Glen Eden Carpets, Calhoun, Ga.
 
• $5,000 rug from Martin Patrick Evans, Chicago.
 
• $5,000 china from Mr. and Mrs. Bill Brandt, Winnetka, Ill.
 
• $4,994 flatware from Ghada Irani, Los Angeles.
 
• $4,992 china from Iris Cantor, New York.
 
• $4,967 flatware, Edith Wasserman, Beverly Hills, Calif.
 
• $4,967 flatware, Mr. and Mrs. Morris Pynoos, Beverly Hills, Calif.
 
• $4,787 china from Mary Steenburgen and Ted Danson, Los Angeles.
 
• $4,920 china from Mr. and Mrs. Steven Spielberg, Universal City,
Calif.
 
• $3,000 painting from Joan Tumpson, Miami.
 
• $2,993 televisions and DVD player from Paul Goldenberg, La Habra,
Calif.
 
• $2,400 dining room chairs from Arthur Athis, Los Angeles.
 
• $2,110 china and jacket from Jill and Ken Iscol, Pound Ridge, N.Y.
 
• $1,588 flatware from Myra Greenspun, Green Valley, Nev.
 
• $595 pantsuit and sweater, Margaret O'Leary, San Francisco.
 
• $524 golf driver and golf balls from Richard Helmstetter, Carlsbad,
Calif.
 
• $500 antique book on George Washington, Mr. and Mrs. Bud Yorkin, Los
Angeles.
 
• $499 golf driver from Ely Callaway, Carlsbad, Calif.
 
• $450 leather jacket from Vin Gupta, Omaha.
 
• $350 golf driver, Jack Nicholson, Beverly Hills, Calif.
 
• $350 framed tapestry, Mr. and Mrs. Vo Viet Thanh, Vietnam.
 
• $340 two sweaters from Robin Carnahan and Nina Canci, St. Louis.
 
• $300 flatware from Colette D'Etremont, New Brunswick, Canada.
 
• $300 painting of Buddy, Brian B. Ready, Chappaqua, N.Y.

 

Chair Lift
 

Among the gifts that former president Bill Clinton says he is keeping as
personal presents he accepted last year are $28,000 worth of furnishings
that documents and interviews indicate were given to the National Park
Service in 1993 as part of the permanent White House collection...
 
Two of the furniture makers whose donations Clinton took with him on
leaving the White House last month say they gave them to the White House
as part of a widely publicized, $396,000 redecoration of the executive
mansion and not to Clinton personally.
 
"When we've been asked to donate, it was always hyphenated with the
words, " 'White House,' " New York manufacturer Steve Mittman said of
his family-owned business, which gave two sofas, an easy chair and an
ottoman, worth $19,900 and listed by Clinton as part of the gifts he
took with him. "To us, it was not a donation to a particular person."

Gifts Were Not Meant for Clintons, Some Donors Say

Sen. Clinton made another assertion - one that is equally misleading.

She contends she was not obliged to report the first Leiber bag she received "because it was received before the Clintons entered the White House."

But this bag, valued at $3,500, was received after the election and during the transition and therefore obviously was related to the Clinton presidency.

HILLARY'S STORY ON HER WHITE HOUSE GIFTS IS FULL OF (LOOP)HOLES, Dick Morris

 

 
But he said the Socks purse was given to Clinton during the transition in late 1992, before her husband took office...
--HILLARY: I RETURNED GIFTS TO THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE

TRANSLATION: An earlier example of the clinton post-election/pre-swearing-in klepto-bribery scheme...

 

MORE: HILLARY: I RETURNED GIFTS TO THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE [SOCKS BAGS BAG]

 

 


101 posted on 12/24/2001 2:13:23 AM PST by Mia T
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To: bmwcyle
Juxtapose this:

2-23-01
 
 
Vernon Jordan admits to Brian Lamb: clinton friendship not included in my memoirs because the purpose of the book was to restore my reputation

with this:

2-21-01
 
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails in its 1st Effort
 
Bill O'Reilly Laughs Lanny Davis Off Stage
 
Calls "It's the economy, stupid" an Utter Absurdity Post-9/11

NEW YORK, Dec 21--Diehard clinton lackey, Lanny Davis tested the CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme in what the clintons likely regard their most difficult venue, "The O'Reilly Factor." The top-rated Fox News show demonstrated once again that its motto, "the no spin zone," is no spin.

The eponymous host swiftly stopped the spin (and the spin). O'Reilly debunked all the shameless clinton-directed revisionism spewed by Davis, exposing the absurdity of the CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme even as he underscored clinton's immutable legacy of depravity and failure.

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103 posted on 12/24/2001 3:47:07 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Wil H
AmericaninTokyo has a valid point. Mia's efforts are way too long, and we have all seen then 100 times. I for one, don't read 90% of what she sends because I've seen it before and I don't wish to wade through reams of old stuff to find one small change (if there is any)

I appreciate her good work but I wish she would stop repeating it, it becomes boorish after a while.

FRee Republic & FRee America .............

....... where you have the option to open any thread you so chose

So again why are you here???

Merry Christmas to all

.

104 posted on 12/24/2001 3:55:53 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Elle Bee
You appear to be missing the question, The question is why is Mia T repeating the same space consuming graphics over and over again , and why doesn't anyone else have the intestinal fortitute to critisize her for it?

I said in my post I appreciated her work, she does make great contributions to this forum , but that shouldn't give her carte blanche to repeat herself voluminously over and over again, it's boorish.

105 posted on 12/24/2001 5:30:25 AM PST by Wil H
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To: lawdude;Mia T
"Slow loading ... 98% rant, 2% substance!"

If you actually take the time to read it, you'll find you have those ratios backwards.

If you've ever written anything as insightful as "The Other Nixon," then I for one would love to read it.

106 posted on 12/24/2001 5:31:36 AM PST by Mr. Bungle
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To: Wil H;Mia T
"The question is why is Mia T repeating the same space consuming graphics over and over again , and why doesn't anyone else have the intestinal fortitute to critisize her for it?"

She addressed it earlier in the thread, but I might be able to add to it.

Have you ever watched television? Think of the repetition as advertising. You've undoubtedly seen the same ad many times on any particular channel - and while it may not impress you after the first viewing, you're not the only person observing that channel. New people are watching at any given moment; many have never seen what you already have. And given how posts on FR may be buried under the daily avalanche of posting traffic, I personally feel that repetition of points, when well made (and even with modem-torturing artwork) are critical in grabbing the eye of the uninitiated.

Mia's got what I feel is a distinctly punk style of political commentary. And the visual stuff is a cornerstone of it. What she does is probably going to appeal to the younger crowd many, many times more than even the best written, National Review caliber commentary many of us aspire to. And don't underestimate the importance of it.

As a former leftist, I've seen too many young people on that side reject conservative thought because they feel it destroys "creativity." It's a poor reason for that rejection - perhaps the poorest of all, but it is one of the first forks in the road for many young people. And they make a poor choice based entirely on a false premise. And while we all know the premise is nonsense, Mia can demonstrate exactly why.

107 posted on 12/24/2001 5:55:35 AM PST by Mr. Bungle
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To: Mia T
I'm struck by the high level or arrogance that often exists with the xlintoons who maintain there is NO truth except what they would have us believe. The idea of responsibility -- of being accountable for one's actions has absolutely no meaning in their world where there's neither truth or reality but endless interpretations.
108 posted on 12/24/2001 5:56:09 AM PST by StarFan
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To: Uncle Bill; Mia T; American In Tokyo; ALL
Mia's work is an art ... graphic and self-explanatory.

With every presentation to FR, she gives a combination of modern art in combination with a "doctoral thesis".

The "repetition", in her case does not present itself as a boring serving ... rather a flavored reminder to some ... of the vast evil of Bill and Hill.

To us oldsters (myself in particular -- I find myself thinking "How could I have forgotten that little detail"!

With our flood of newbies (not meant as a slur), ... even though her presentation may boggle the minds of some ... her reminders are actually ... news to some of them.

Thanks for your very talented service to us Mia T and your sharing of talent!
109 posted on 12/24/2001 6:07:29 AM PST by AKA Elena
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To: Mia T
Arkancide ? CIA CO & Congressional staffer who investigated Clinton's approval of arms from Iran

AN APPARENTLY SELF-INFLICTED GUNSHOT WOUND
Source: The New York Times
Published: June 5, 2000 Author: Obit.

Before becoming a senior staff aide in Congress, Mr. Millis served as a case officer for the C.I.A. for nearly 13 years. In that period, he lived in Pakistan, working to provide covert aid to Afghan rebels who were fighting the Soviet army.

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110 posted on 12/25/2001 7:48:36 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Mia T
Thankyou, again. And, if there ever is to be a roundup, you'll be the first.( You are a mortal threat to pompous, amoral bunk merchants everywhere. )
111 posted on 12/29/2001 12:17:06 AM PST by Leisler
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To: Mia T
I hope the ever-honorable TRUTH becomes ever more recognized as more people came to their senses after 9/11 and hopefully enlighten others. Not all, though, as I found out at a Christmas Day dinner, when the male head of household blithely claimed he didn't believe my sense of a t/c with a top senior official in intelligence that they had no plans to target Afghanistan before the petty petulance of the parsimoniously endowed perpetrator of rape sought revenge for his own actions brought forth in his public deposition. As this man was harboring his 'disbelief' since I told him the tale on Thanksgiving Day, backing it up with Seymour Hersh's 'Missiles of August' investigative report in the Atlantic Monthly, with even BC's appointed Head of the Joint Chief's Sheldon, advice against lobbing missiles, as well as the rest of the military, the only movement seems to be anger, perhaps a prelude to giving up such negative perpetuations of their ideas. As a followup, I contacted this former 2nd in command at the Pentagon, and I asked him if I interpreted our conversation correctly, that there had been no plan to target until BC gave the order the day of the grand jury inquisition, and he confirmed it. Shades of what could have been the beginning of an Arab WWIII with origins similar to WWI. Many at the Pentagon felt sickened, at having to come to work under his command, but rather than be court-martialed for disobeying an order, they seem to have followed through in the best way possible, by bombing at 4:00 a.m. on the outskirts, where no one would be harmed. Close call for OBL, hah!
112 posted on 12/29/2001 12:18:13 AM PST by boltfromblue
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To: boltfromblue

Speaking of the doghouse, last fall the president's lawyer Bob Bennett gave a speech to the National Press Club in Washington. On a single day- so he informed an openmouthed audience- he had had four substantial conversations with Clinton about the Paula Jones case, and feeling this excessive, "I had to cut it short and the president said, 'Yeah, I've got to get back to Saddam Hussein,' and I said, 'My God, this is lunacy that I'm taking his time on this stuff.'" Well, I hope Mr. Bennett didn't charge for that day, or for the other time-wasting day when he naively introduced Lewinsky's false affidavit on Clinton's behalf. But, if he hoped to persuade his audience that Clinton should be left alone to conduct a well-mediated Iraq policy, his words achieved the opposite effect. Policy toward Baghdad has been without pulse or direction or principle ever since Mr. Clinton took office. As one who spent some horrible days in Halabja, the Kurdish city that was ethnically cleansed by Saddam's chemical bombs, I have followed Washington's recent maneuvers with great attention. The only moment when this president showed a glimmer of interest in the matter was when his own interests were involved as well.

And thus we come to the embarrassing moment last December when Clinton played field marshal for four days, and destroyed the UN inspection program in order to save it. By November 14, 1998, Saddam Hussein had exhausted everybody's patience by his limitless arrogance over inspections of weapon sites, and by his capricious treatment of the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM) inspectorate. In a rare show of Security Council solidarity, Russia, China, and France withdrew criticism of a punitive strike. The Republican leadership in both houses of Congress, which had criticized the Clinton administration for inaction, was ready to rock 'n' roll with Iraq. The case had been made, and the airplanes were already in the air when the president called them back. No commander in chief has ever done this before. Various explanations were offered as to why Clinton, and his close political crony Sandy Berger, had make such a wan decision. It was clearly understood that the swing vote had been the president's, and that Madeline Albright and William Cohen had argued the other way.

But in mid-November the president was still flushed with the slight gain made by his party in the midterm elections. Impeachment seemed a world away, with Republican "moderates" becoming the favorite of headline writers and op-ed performers alike. This theme persisted in the news and in the polls until after the pre-Hanukkah weekend of December 12-13, when, having been rebuffed by Benjamin Netanyahu at a post-Wye visit in Israel, Clinton had to fly home empty-handed. This must have been galling for him, since he had only imposed himself on the original Wye agreement, just before the November elections, as a high-profile/high-risk electoral ploy. (He had carried with him to Tel Aviv, on Air Force One, Rick Lazio and Jon Fox, two Republican congressmen widely hailed as fence-sitters regarding impeachment. So it can't easily be said that he wasn't thinking about the domestic implications of foreign policy.) But by Tuesday, December 15, after Clinton's last-ditch nonapology had "bombed" like all its predecessors, every headline had every waverer deciding for impeachment after all. On Wednesday afternoon, the president announced that Saddam Hussein was, shockingly enough, not complying with the UN inspectorate. And the cruise missiles took wing again. Within hours the House Republicans had met and, "furious and fractured," according to the New York Times, had announced the postponement of the impeachment debate, due to begin Thursday morning.

This was not quite like the preceding dramas. For one thing, it could and probably would have happened- unlike Sudan and Afghanistan- at any time. For another thing, the president was careful to say that he had the support of his whole "national security team," which he wouldn't have been able to say of his cop-out decision in November. Presidents don't normally list the number of their own employees and appointees who agree with them about national-security questions, but then, most presidents don't feel they have to. (Though most presidents have avoided making their Cabinet members back them in public on falsehoods about "private" and "inappropriate" conduct.) Having gone on slightly too long about the endorsements he'd won from his own much - bamboozled team, Clinton was faced with only a few remaining questions. These included:

  • Why, since Saddam Hussein has been in constant noncompliance, must bombing start tonight?
  • Why has there been no open consultation with either Congress or the United Nations?
  • When did you find out about the Richard Butler report on Saddam Hussein's violations?

The last question, apparently a simple one, was the most difficult to answer. It emerged that Clinton had known the contents of the Butler report at least two days before it was supposed to be handed to the UN secretary-general Kofi Annan. It was Kofi Annan's job, furthermore, to present it to the world body for action. Members of the National Security Council in Washington, however, were leading the report (which "discovered" Saddam Hussein's violations) to friends of mine in Washington by Tuesday, December 15. This timeline simply means that Clinton knew well in advance that he was going to be handed a free pretext in case of need. Mr. Butler might care to explain why he hurriedly withdrew his inspectors without Security Council permission- leaving some 400 United Nations humanitarian aid workers to face the music- at least a day before the bombs began to drop.

Once again the question: What was the rush? It must have meant a lot to Clinton to begin the strikes when he did, because he forfeited the support of the UN, of Russia, of China, of France, and of much of the congressional leadership- all of which he had enjoyed in varying degrees in November. (The Russians, whose volatile stock of "weapons of mass destruction" is far more of a menace than Iraq's, actually withdrew their ambassador from Washington for the first time in history, and threatened again to freeze talks on strategic-arms limitation.)

To the "rush" question, Clinton at first answered that the weekend of December 19-20 marked the start of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, and one would not want to be bombing an Islamic people while they were beginning their devotions. However, the postponed impeachment debate continued well into Saturday, December 19, and so did the bombardment, which concluded a few hours after the impeachment vote itself. Muslim susceptibilities were therefore even more outraged, even in morally friendly countries such as Kuwait, by the suspicious coincidence of timing. During the debate, the House Democratic leadership took the position, openly encouraged by the White House, that a president should not be embarrassed at home while American troops were "in harm's way" abroad. Again, it is made clear by Clinton's own conduct and arguments that, for him, foreign policy and domestic policy do not exist in parallel universes, but are one and the same.

And, again, I found myself talking to someone who is normally more hawkish than I am. Scott Ritter, who served with UNSCOM from 1991 until August 1998 and who was the chief of its Concealment Investigations Unit, had been warning for months that Saddam Hussein was evading compliance inspections. This warning entainled a further accusation, which was that UNSCOM in general, and Richard Butler in particular, were too much under the day-to-day control of the Clinton administration. (An Australian career diplomat who, according to some of his colleagues, was relinquished with relief by his masters Down Under, Butler owes his job to Madeline Albright in the first place.) Thus, when the United States, did not want a confrontation with Iraq, over the summer and into the fall, Butler and the leadership acted like pussycats and caused Ritter to resign over their lack of seriousness. But then, when a confrontation was urgently desired in December, the slightest pretext would suffice. And that, Ritter says, is the bitterest irony of all. The December strikes had no real military value, because the provocation was too obviously staged.

"They sent inspectors to the Baath Party HQ in Baghdad in the week before the raids," Ritter told me. "UNSCOM then leaves in a huff, claiming to have been denied access. There was nothing inside that facility anway. The stuff was moved before they got there. The United States knew there was nothing in that site. And then a few days later, there are reports that cruise missiles hit the Baath Party HQ! It's completely useless. Butler knew that I'd resign if the U.S. continued to jerk UNSCOM around, and he even came to my leaving party and bought me a drink. But now he's utterly lost his objectivity and impartiality, and UNSCOM inspections have been destroyed in the process, and one day he'll be hung out to dry. Ask your colleagues in Washington when they got his report."

From the Washington Post account by Barton Gellmen, on Wednesday, December 16, written the day before the bombing began and on the day that Kofi Annan saw the Butler report for the first time:

Butler's conclusions were welcome in Washington, which helped orchestrate the terms of the Australian diplomat's report. Sources in New York and Washington said Clinton-administration officials played a direct role in shaping Butler's text during multiple conversations with him Monday at secure facilities in the U.S. mission to the United Nations.

"Of course," Ritter told me almost conversationally, "though this is Wag the Dog, it isn't quite like Sudan and Afghanistan in August, which were Wag the Dog pure and simple."

Well, indeed, nothing is exactly like Wag the Dog. In the movie, the whole war is invented and run out of a studio, and nobody actually dies, whereas in Sudan and Afghanistan and Iraq, real corpses were lying about and blood spilled. You might argue, as Clinton's defenders have argued in my hearing, that if there was such a "conspiracy" it didn't work. To this there are three replies. First, no Clinton apologist can dare, after the victim cult sponsored by both the president and the First Lady, to ridicule the idea of "conspiracy," vast or otherwise. Second, the bombings helped to raise Clinton's poll numbers and to keep them high, and who will say that this in not a permanent White House concern? Third, the subject was temporarily changed from Clinton's thing to Clinton's face, and doubtless that came as some species of relief. But now we understand what in November was a mystery. A much less questionable air strike was canceled because, at that time, Clinton needed to keep an "option" in his breast pocket.

On January 6, two weeks after I spoke to Scott Ritter, UN secretary-general Kofi Annan's office angrily announced that, under Richard Butler's leadership, UNSCOM had in effect become a wholly owned subsidiary of the Clinton administration. The specific disclosure concerned the organization's spying activities, which had not been revealed to the UN. But Ritter's essential point about UNSCOM's and Butler's subservient client role was also underscored. This introduces two more canines- the UN inspectors being metamorphosed from watchdogs into lapdogs.

The staged bombing of Iraq in December was in reality the mother of all pinpricks. It was even explained that nerve-gas sites had not been hit, lest the gas be released. (Odd that this didn't apply in the case of the El Shifa plant, which is located in a suburb of Khartoum.) The Saddam Hussein regime survived with contemptuous ease, while its civilian hostages suffered yet again. During the prematurely triumphant official briefings from Washington, a new bureaucratic euphemism made its appearance. We were incessantly told that Iraq's capacities were being "degraded." This is not much of a target to set oneself, and it also leads to facile claims of success, since every bomb that falls has by definition a "degrading" effect on the system or the society.

By acting and speaking as he did, not just in August but also in December, Clinton opened himself, and the United States, to a charge of which a serious country cannot afford even to be suspected. The tin pots and yahoos of Khartoum and Kabul and Baghdad are micro-megalomaniacs who think of their banana republics as potential superpowers. It took this president to "degrade" a superpower into a potential banana republic.

******

So overwhelming was the evidence in the case of the Sudanese atrocity that by January 1999 it had become a serious embarrassment to the Clinton administration. The true owner of the El Shifa plant, a well-known Sudanese entrepreneur named Saleh Idris, approached Dr. Thomas Tullius, head of the chemistry department at Boston University, and asked him to conduct a forensic examination of the site. Samples taken from all levels, and submitted to three different laboratories in different world capitals, yielded the same resut. There were no traces of any kind of toxicity, or indeed of anything but standard pharmaceutical material. Armed with this and other evidence, Mr. Idris demanded compensation for his destroyed property and initiated proceedings for a lawsuit. His case in Washington was taken up by the law firm of Akin, Gump, Strauss, Hauer and Feld- perhaps best known for the prominence with which Vernon Jordan adorns its board of partners.

As a capitalist and holder of private property, Mr. Idris was always likely to receive due consideration if he was prepared to hire the sorts of help that are understood in the Clintonoid world of soft money and discreet law firms. The worker killed at the plant, the workers whose livelihood depended upon it, and those further down the stream whose analgesics and antibiotics never arrived, and whose names are not recorded, will not be present when the recompenses are agreed. They were expendable objects of Clinton's ruthless vanity.

Christopher Hitchens, NO ONE LEFT TO LIE TO

 

by Mia T 

I went to the movie to today to see "Wag the Dog,"
fully expecting to be entertained by its wicked satire.
 
For an artistic work to qualify as satire,
it must attack human vice or folly through irony, derision, or wit.
 
If it merely recounts what actually is, it is reportage.
If it underestimates what is, and does so not by design but by miscalculation, it is a flop.
 
"Wag the Dog" -- notwithstanding De Niro and Hoffman -- is a flop.
 A farce of a greater farce just doesn't parse.
 
You can blame it on bad timing,
and to some small extent this is the case.
 
Clinton's latest round of
pet-ploitation
and sexploitation
and press-ploitation
and U.S.-ploitation
and us-ploitation
did make a preemptive,
low-life-imitating-art strike.
 
But the film's obvious references
to this president renders that excuse
grossly inadequate.

And yet, this flop-as-a-farce shocks, nonetheless.

What is shocking is that Hollywood made it.
That Hollywood made a film about a clintonesque president
who has sex with a Girl Scout in the Oval Office;
who shamelessly, reflexively defrauds the media and the electorate;
who will do anything to cover up his crime:
(it is only eleven days before his expected re-election);
who feigns a war to deflect attention away
from the statutory rape on federal property;
and finally, who murders a coconspirator
threatening to go public about the coverup.
 
Dog-ear this, though: "Wag the Dog" is not completely devoid of delicious irony. But it is between the frames -- the inadvertent, interstitial whimpering of the wagging lapdogs of LA-LA-land.

113 posted on 12/29/2001 4:49:09 AM PST by Mia T
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To: mrsmith
bump
114 posted on 12/29/2001 6:08:39 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: Mia T
This is the line I love:

Several participants said they did not want to discuss the meeting out of respect for Mr. Clinton's privacy.

They're talking about a massive publicity effort aren't they? If he wants privacy, he should go the hell away!

115 posted on 12/29/2001 6:27:51 AM PST by Amore
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To: Mia T
bttt
116 posted on 12/29/2001 6:31:57 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Amore
Talking about privacy...

9/15/98 John Kass

 
Chicago Tribune
 
SURE CLINTON'S TRYST IS A PRIVATE MATTER --JUST LIKE WAR IS
 
September 15, 1998
 
President Clinton's defenders keep making their case that his private life has no bearing on how he does his job.
 
They prattle on about his job approval ratings, which actually track how fat our wallets have become, not whether he can lead this country in a
serious crisis.
 
Maybe you think that Independent Counsel Ken Starr's report is about Clinton, the lothario.
But, if you want to learn something about Clinton as a leader, I refer you to the part about the pizza date with Monica Lewinsky at the White House.
 
That was also the night that Clinton was on the phone with a powerful Alabama Republican congressman, H.L. "Sonny" Callahan. What we didn't know is
what they were talking about.
 
Now it's emerging that they were discussing sending American troops into harm's way in Bosnia--putting our sons and daughters into a dangerous place
that is full of death.
 
The president needed a vote from Callahan--chairman of an appropriations subcommittee that controls billions of dollars in foreign aid--for the
peacekeeping mission, which would augment an international accord being developed in Dayton, Ohio.
 
But while he was on the phone, Clinton was simultaneously occupied.
White House intern Monica Lewinsky was performing oral sex in the Oval Office.
 
Imagine someone receiving those favors while they're talking to you on the phone.
 
Now imagine that the subject you're talking about is literally about life and death.
 
At issue was the fate of American troops. And also the fate of the Balkans, one of the bloodiest killing grounds in the world. What's going on there threatens to spill over into Greece and Turkey, while Russia continues to crumble.
 
I called the White House on Monday on the chance they would dispute the facts as presented by Starr and Callahan on that night, Nov. 17, 1995. And as they have done in the past few days, officials declined.
 
Callahan, meanwhile, is issuing this statement: "I do recall talking to the president during which time he was seeking my assistance for the American mission in Bosnia. But I do not have any recollection of any inappropriate behavior or comments from the president during my conversation. . . .
 
"I had no knowledge that I was sharing the president's time or attention with anyone else."
 
That night, Callahan and a handful of other Republicans voted with the president's side in opposing a move to prevent funds from being spent to send those troops overseas. They lost.
 
Eventually, the Dayton Peace Accords were signed. The president sent thousands and thousands of soldiers to Bosnia. He promised he'd bring them back
by the end of 1996.
 
They're still there.
 
I called Callahan's office on Monday and talked with his chief of staff, Jo Bonner
 
"Sonny has very mixed emotions about this," said Bonner, who added that Callahan was considering a critical public address about Clinton on the House
floor. "He could be voting on this (impeachment) issue, and he's not trying to grandstand.
 
"But the president says it's a personal matter. It became a public matter when he lobbied the congressman, talking about sending men and women overseas, even as he was being entertained by Miss Lewinsky. . . . You could say it is an insult. And worse."
 
A White House official said on background that the president has great respect for those who serve their country overseas.
 
Yeah. Sure. He proved it.
 
According to her grand jury testimony, Lewinsky said that Clinton suggested she bring him some slices of pizza. When she arrived, she was immediately welcomed and ushered inside.
 
But during their loving caress, Clinton had a telephone call. She recalled that the caller was a member of Congress with a nickname.
 
While Clinton was on the telephone with the congressman, she testified that Clinton unzipped himself and she did her duty. She was at the White House
that evening from 9:38 to 10:39 p.m.
 
White House phone records confirm, according to the Starr report, that Clinton had only one telephone conversation with a member of Congress. From 9:53 to 10:14 p.m., he spoke with "Sonny" Callahan.
 
While the House vote took place, diplomats anguished about whether the peace process would collapse. Muslims, Serbs and Croats, along with diplomats from America and other countries huddled in Dayton.
 
The people of the former Yugoslavia were desperate for relief from terror. American soldiers drilled. Their commanders planned, and most likely worried about their troops, as good officers always do.
 
Across this country, the mothers and fathers of soldiers worried and prayed. Some surely lit candles. U.S. representatives with opposing views fought it out with each other.
 
And the commander in chief, the president of the United States, his mouth full of pizza, entertained himself with a groupie in the Oval Office.
 
He is without shame.

 


117 posted on 12/29/2001 6:50:13 AM PST by Mia T
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To: backhoe
The clintons, and all their enablers need to be hectored, hounded, and harried into silence, -"until clintonese is spoken only in Hell!"--"" Yes, and we are the ones who will do it!!
118 posted on 12/29/2001 6:56:42 AM PST by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: Mia T
Thank you, Mia! We all can surely appreciate getting under our ammo belts Christopher Hitchen's salient tracking of the complex daily deleterious deceits Clinton put nearly all the world through, most especially our military. Let us keep it all in mind and never forget, should we have the opportunity to remind others to exact the penalties due him. The moral degradation you point out in the attitudes of the Wag the Dog movie makers is aptly ferreted out. The man who reverted to denial of clinton's culpability, which his wife reminded him he once subscribed to had no sense of fairness, objective perspective, or sense of curiosity, for he clearly made no attempt to corroborate (or dispute) the facts from those who knew them as we both have here. BTTT.
119 posted on 12/30/2001 11:06:51 PM PST by boltfromblue
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To: Mia T
What's amazing about this article is the complete and utter delusional thinking that went into the meeting.

For Bubba, the presidency was always and everywhere about him.

His only legacy is his egotistical corruption.

History will trash him even worse than Mia T, that is as long as we can some day effectively defeat the communists.

120 posted on 01/05/2002 5:49:25 AM PST by GEC
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