[frmrda]

Your absolutely right about a transition plan. Spanking won't work on a 12 or 13 year old. The punishment has to be appropriate. A 13 year old will simply suck it up and then move on. Grounding and taking away privileges (i.e. phone, car, TV) works better at that age. Trust me I know.

[VMI70]

Your absolutely right about a transition plan. Spanking won't work on a 12 or 13 year old.

You have to move up to flogging with a cat o' nine tails at that age. Putting them in stocks in your front yard is good for milder transgressions, such as their thinking about doing something wrong.

Hope this helps!