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To: justshutupandtakeit
"But the slaves knew the truth as their love for President Lincoln clearly showed.

That's interesting - kind of like they love Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton?

TIME OUT - no flames, please. I don't think Lincoln was evil incarnate, but he was not faultless, either. Slavery was (and is) evil.

I've made observations that I'd love to write a book about, but I know I'll never get around to it. But, let me ask you, and everyone else something - Doesn't it seem to you that we have substituted very poor education today for illegal education of slaves back then? - Is it too much of a stretch to see that those poorly educated people (too often "coincidentally" black) are now paid very little to work at the "McDonald's Plantation", or at the local "Hometown Factory Plantation"?

This is not a Southern problem alone. And there will always be bigots on BOTH sides of the fence. Your insistence that those of us who long for states's rights are all bigots is comparable to me calling you a Communist because you like a strong federal government.

I'll grant that slavery was a big part. But it was NOT the only issue.

39 posted on 12/20/2001 10:37:58 AM PST by HeadOn
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To: HeadOn
I never called anyone a "bigot" thus can't answer to that.

There is probably not ONE public school in the country where one cannot get a decent education IF THAT IS YOUR GOAL. All the rest is mere blame making and excuses.

The problem with public schooling in the ghettos is neither the teachers nor the curriculum, it is with the PARENTS of the children. With 80% of the black children there is no two parent family and no value placed on education. They would be doing the same thing in private schools- not learning and being proud of it.

Did it never cross your mind that the reason Blacks support the federal government so much is because it was the one which stood up for them against the Slaveowners and their completely owned States before and after the war? This is the reason they support Big government because they saw State governments take away their rights as humans first and as citizens later. Terrorism against them, their leaders and their communities were SOP in the South until well into this century.

When they disabuse themselves of this love of government and strike out on their own initiative Blacks succeed just like anyone else in this nation. Distancing themselves from the Democratic Party will accelerate this success. After all it was always the Democratic Party which supported slavery, fought against allowing the Blacks their rights and used the States against them. In fact, it was the incredible stupidity of the Dems which allowed Lincoln to be elected in the first place. The Slaveocrats were not satisfied with the moderate stance on slavery adopted by the nominee of the national party so they split the party and it wound up running two Democratic nominees allowing Lincoln to win with a minority of the popular vote.

66 posted on 12/20/2001 1:16:54 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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