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To: Mudboy Slim
First off, Davis and Stephens were far from "Traitors".

They were clearly traitors under the definition given in the Constitution.

But you might argue that what they did was justified--you know, like what George Washington, Thomas Jefferson et al did. After all, they were called traitors under British law-and they clearly were.

And that would be when I ask you what had happened prior to 1860 that would justify taking up arms against the government in Washington and firing on the US flag. Why couldn't they just be cool and talk it out?

Walt

150 posted on 12/21/2001 9:15:31 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
"Why couldn't they just be cool and talk it out?"

If it was left up to the Sheeple, I believe that could have--and would have--occurred; however, the North's Effete Elite did not want a low-tariff competitor to the South and the South's Effete Elite did not want to give up their cushy lifestyle that would have gone away had slavery been abolished.

FReegards...MUD

157 posted on 12/21/2001 9:25:56 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Why couldn't they just be cool and talk it out?

Well, of course you know they attempted to, but Lincoln would have no part of it.

CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE CONFEDERATE COMMISSIONERS, MR. SECRETARY SEWARD AND JUDGE CAMPBELL.

The Commissioners to Mr. Seward.

WASHINGTON CITY, March In, 1861.

Hon. William H. Seward, Secretary of State of the United States.

Sir: The undersigned have been duly accredited by the Government of the Confederate States of America as commissioners to the Government of the United States, and, in pursuance of their instructions, have now the honor to acquaint you with that fact, and to make known, through you to the President of the United States, the objects of their presence in this capital.

Seven States of the late Federal Union, having in the exercise of the inherent right of every free people to change or reform their political institutions, and through conventions of their people withdrawn from the United States and reassumed the attributes of sovereign power delegated to it, have formed a government of their own. The Confederate States constitute an independent nation, de facto and de jure, and possess a government perfect in all its parts, and endowed with all the means of self-support.

With a view to a speedy adjustment of all questions growing out of this political separation, upon such terms of amity and good will as the respective interests, geographical contiguity, and future welfare of the two nations may render necessary, the undersigned are instructed to make to the Government of the United States overtures for the opening of negotiations, assuring the Government of the United States that the President, Congress, and people of the Confederate States earnestly desire a peaceful solution of these great questions; that it is neither their interest nor their wish to make any demand which is not founded in strictest justice, nor do any act to injure their late confederates.

The undersigned have now the honor, in obedience to the instructions of their Government, to request you to appoint as early a day as possible, in order that they may present to the President of the United States the credentials which they bear and the objects of the mission with which they are charged.

We are, very respectfully, your obedient servants, [ Signed]

JOHN FORSYTH

MARTIN J. CRAWFORD.

225 posted on 12/22/2001 4:40:12 AM PST by PeaRidge
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