[MA] Landowners Take On State

The Sierra Times ^ | 6 December, 2001 | Boston Globe via Sierra Times

[backhoe]

Agree- I absolutely despise these incestuous little groups who want to use the force of the government to make others do as they wish.

[1Old Pro]

"SMART GROWTH" = Liberalism's new term to redistribute wealth and population from the Republican controlled suburbs to the Democrat controlled cities. Smart Growth is a bad word.

[Sabertooth]

Oh, my heart is just freeping bleeding to pieces for Massachusetts and the rest of the good-for-nothing postage stamp states of New England.

These parcels of pompousity wouldn't even make a decent county out West, yet they keep sending up a dozen self-congratulatory senators (and hardly more congressmen) who think nothing of the federal hording of 60% of the land west of the Mississippi.

Once we're done grabbing 60% of the land from Connecticut to Maine, I vote we export enough California colonistas to increase the population on the remaining land there by 10% to 20%.

This article has put a vicious, vengeful grin on this Californian's face. If New England doesn't like it, then they can go clean their own house, so that we'll finally be able to clean ours.

[Askel5]

Bump!

[Grampa Dave]

What you posted is great!: ""SMART GROWTH" = Liberalism's new term to redistribute wealth and population from the Republican controlled suburbs to the Democrat controlled cities. Smart Growth is a bad word."

Very insightful, Old Pro!

[E.G.C.]

My thoughts exactly. Thanks for the bump and article.

[flamefront]

The word hasn't gotten out to the Boston Globe yet but

The Enviro-wackos are committing scientific fraud

: [LYNX HOAX] Wilderness Institute Calls Federal Action Against Scientific Fraud By ESA Officials
and all their studies need to be reviewed.

[harpseal]

Elitist B!tch!

Nazi Elitist b!tch.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[harpseal]

As for your idea of taking 60% of the land from CT through Maine and relocating a whole buch of Left Coast wackos to the ther Left Coast here in New England it s*cks. What we have here is the putification of these original cradels of Liberty into a miasmic cesspool of statists in control. The number of senators these small states have is a left over from the original ratification of our Constitution and the only part not subject to change by amendment. get used to it. Now if you would care to guarantee that all these new residents would be of the same character as say you or Travis McGee we would have a resotation of our rights up here.

The fact is the Liberals from CT, MA, RI, and VT are a scourage on this land. Yes, they control the politics here that does not mean everyone from New England wants to see the war on the West continue or to have been waged at all.

I suggest you calm down. i in some ways enjoy seeing many of those who have quietly gone along in Liberal Land getting gored by this ox.

Stay well - stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[r9etb]

"can they continue to be good stewards? Not with the development pressures you have in this region. We can't be certain of the future. It's necessary to have this kind of review to protect these resources."

If we pick this one apart, we can see that there really is a problem lurking in here, which neither side really wants us to discuss.

First off, you can kind of see her point. It is a plain fact that suburban housing developments completely destroy wildlife habitat. Just about any development you care to name has the following characteristics: close-packed (and ugly) houses, fenced yards, plenty of concrete, and no space for wildlife. When one lives near such a development, it's common to see all sorts of unexpected wildlife in the yard -- or dead alongside the road -- as the animals are pushed out by construction. This represents a real loss to a community.

Digging deeper, one can find a couple of agendas at work here.

On the one hand, the anti-development crowd commonly resorts to this back-door method of finding an obscure little beast as a means of bringing the weight of the Federal government to bear on their behalf. This prevents an honest and necessary discussion for finding a balance between home-building and preservation of wildlife habitat -- both of which are needed and desirable.

On the other hand, the developers' interests are often at odds with the rest of the community. Mutually satisfactory outcomes are rare: it's almost impossible for members of the community to influence developers once they've got it in their minds to build. Unlike normal citizens, developers have virtually unlimited resources, and large staffs of lobbyists and lawyers who can devote all of their time, efforts -- and campaign contributions -- toward total victory. Eventually the normal citizens will miss a meeting, and then they're toast.

Just as with the environmentalists, the developers work hard to avoid necessary discussion on homes vs. wildlife. In addition, the developers work hard to mask the fact that their handiwork inevitably leads to real and significant monetary costs to the community, including additional traffic, roads, drainage, water supplies, and fire and police coverage -- not to mention the intangible losses such as added noise, pollution, crowding, and the fact that the developments seem to be designed to encourage a transient, non-neighborly lifestyle.

Which brings us to the real problem: people like us -- the ones in the middle -- end up paying the price imposed by both sides of this battle, and we really haven't got much choice other than to pick which group to which we'll surrender.

[Ben Ficklin]

Who may nominate and elgibility features

[philman_36]

B.S.
I see you know male bovine dung when you see it too.
Understanding, with dawning clarity, is slowly coming to much of the ignorant masses attention. snicker...ignorant masses...Massachusetts

[Victoria Delsoul]

If New England doesn't like it, then they can go clean their own house, so that we'll finally be able to clean ours.

Here, here!!! hehehe.

[philman_36]

Massachusetts...America's dilema in microcosm.
Should they start enforcing or restricting immigration standards?

[philman_36]

Here, here!!! hehehe.
LOL
What a play on words you have there.

[The Mayor]

Hopkinton is my home town, I have relatives in Grafton and Upton.
Bump for later read

[Carry_Okie]

Here is a well-documented resource for educating people of the logical fallacies, unintended consequences, and environmental damage caused by Smart Growth (Agenda21) in Portland, Oregon.

[Carry_Okie]

A bump for a fellow author, to whom I owe a favor.

[1Old Pro]

Thanks, that's worth saving

[Cuttnhorse]

"Property Rights is not just a Western Problem."

That's a good point Brity...we westerners tend to think this is only happening in the west but some of the most important court cases have been in the eastern US.