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Mexican drug killings spread {BRING THEM Mexican TRUCKS INTO AMERICA}
ASSOCIATED PRESS ^ | December 18, 2001 | By Mark Stevenson<

Posted on 12/18/2001 6:07:58 PM PST by expose

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:07 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

MEXICO CITY

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 12/18/2001 6:07:59 PM PST by expose
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To: expose
Mexican Trucking Companies Sue U.S. Government, Alleging Discrimination
2 posted on 12/18/2001 6:09:47 PM PST by expose
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To: expose
Would you like to go to a baseball game in Mexico?
3 posted on 12/18/2001 6:25:22 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: expose
Did you read this article before posting it? Or are you simply incapable of distinguishing between the issue of drug cartel violence in Mexico and the issue of the safety of long haul trucks owned by Mexican companies?

Mexican trucks already come fifty miles into the US before they have to unload their cargoes. What difference does it make whether the shipping containers are transferred to another truck or delivered by the same truck to Nashville?

4 posted on 12/18/2001 6:34:13 PM PST by bayourod
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"Mexican trucks already come fifty miles into the US before they have to unload their cargoes. What difference does it make whether the shipping containers are transferred to another truck or delivered by the same truck to Nashville?"

The "difference" starts with whether the Mexican truck is even insured.

This afternoon, National Public Radio had a long piece about hit-and-run wrecks being the norm in Mexico - in large part because driving uninsured is so much the norm down there; Mexican police say it's even common for buses down there to do hit-and-runs (think about that the next time you see one of those "Mexican bus" operations in your town!) - and they, too, are often uninsured.

Still want "Juan" driving an 18-wheeler with Mexican plates in the next lane?

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5 posted on 12/18/2001 6:49:18 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: bayourod
I believe expose was trying to equate the violence in Mexico with a potentional rise in violence here if Mexican trucks are allowed to come into the states. The article has so many holes in it, it reads more like a movie script, though.

A vehicle sprayed with "40 rounds" from an AK-47? What, did every round fired hit the van? Did they count the holes? If so, how they know how many went straight through windows? Just sounds sensational to me.

Another part talks about thugs taking over the whole "Mexican society". Umm, here's a news flash...thugs have owned Mexican society for quite some time. The police can throw you in jail for anything or nothing at all, and you'd best have money, or have a money source if you want to get out in a timely manner.

6 posted on 12/18/2001 6:49:28 PM PST by cincinnati_Steve
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To: bayourod
DRUGS
7 posted on 12/18/2001 7:25:26 PM PST by expose
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To: expose
we should either seal the border with mexico or......invade and put some order in place.
8 posted on 12/18/2001 7:42:27 PM PST by is_is
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I agree with both of your assessments. Mexico is one of the most corrupt societies in the world. I firmly believe that some sort of wall should be built, and armed forces stationed along them. Next we need to discover where these rat bastard drug dealers live, and hit them with missles (just like in the second Harrison Ford/Clancy novel movie). If there's one thing we as Americans need to wake up about, is that there are a lot of bad people in this world who mean to undermine our way of life. They need to die. Period. As long as we play "Mr. Nice", they will win. Kill them all.
9 posted on 12/18/2001 7:59:00 PM PST by GreatOne
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To: GreatOne
You are right. These type of people only know one thing, violence. Let them get a dose of their own hostility.
10 posted on 12/18/2001 9:33:06 PM PST by 2nd_Ammendment_Defender
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To: expose
Another casualty of Mexico's drug wars: Plastic surgeons

After their colleagues started turning up dead, Mexico's plastic surgeons began checking their patients more carefully, refusing those who wanted full facial transformations or the camera-shy ones who didn't want their pictures taken.

Drug traffickers have turned increasingly to plastic surgery in recent years to evade the law, and have proved to be all too willing to kill the doctors who operate on them.

Sometimes doctors are killed to hide evidence, but at least one was murdered out of vanity: A trafficker didn't like the way a liposuction turned out.

At least eight doctors have turned up dead since 1994 after working on drug suspects. The number of drug lords with surgically altered features led Mexican prosecutors to issue a call earlier this year for plastic surgeons to cooperate with police and report suspicious cases.

Some doctors were apparently not aware their patients were drug traffickers; others may have done it for the money. Plastic surgeons say they watch prospective patients for warning signs: one who doesn't want a traditional "before and after" photograph taken, or requests a total change in appearance.

Most plastic surgeons try to avoid the dilemma.

"You can get out of the problem, by quoting a very high price, or telling them their skin isn't right, or that they need more tests," said plastic surgeon Hector Arambula. "Sometimes it backfires, because if you quote a high price, these people can pay it, whereas a normal patient wouldn't."

"But the amounts of money offered can be very tempting, and there is also the problem that drug traffickers can bring pressure to bear," Arambula said. "Between the police and the drug traffickers, plastic surgeons are between a rock and a hard place."

Sometimes, doctors get an offer too good to refuse.

The three plastic surgeons who operated on former drug lord Amado Carrillo Fuentes in 1997 apparently not only knew who their patient was, but were paid off to kill him with an injection of tranquilizers.

But then they were forced out of the operating room at gunpoint.

A month later, on a highway hundreds of miles away, their gagged, handcuffed and tortured bodies were found packed into oil drums with dirt and concrete.

That same year, four other doctors were slain after they operated on a drug gunman wounded in a shootout in the border city of Ciudad Juarez, across from El Paso, Texas.

Those doctors showed signs of being strangled or suffocated. At least two had bruises on their hands and knuckles, suggesting they tried to fight off their attackers.

The choice - to operate or not - has cost the life of doctors involved in operations as routine as liposuction, a common procedure that at least one overweight trafficker used to change his appearance.

Known as "The Frog" because of his jowls and double chins, drug suspect Humberto Rodriguez Banuelos was a bad bet as a patient: He once allegedly ordered the killing of a traffic cop who dared give him a ticket.

Prosecutors say he also ordered the 1994 killing of his doctor.

"He ordered the doctor killed, because he said he didn't like the way the liposuction had turned out," said Horacio Montenegro, a former associate who is himself now facing drug charges.

11 posted on 12/18/2001 11:23:55 PM PST by sarcasm
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To: GreatOne
....there are a lot of bad people in this world....

Anyone who profits from the death and destruction of others by dealing..hauling..and producing drugs....are not human. They may be mammals, they may have the ability to walk and talk....but I don't consider them human. Unlike a maggot which only appears after death....they attach themselves to a person till they are completely destroyed....THEN they crawl off.

We need to call it what it is....murder.

12 posted on 12/19/2001 3:12:34 AM PST by JessicaDragonet
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To: expose
Interesting article. A longer version appered in The Washington Times, Dec. 18. Further arguemtn that we need to protect our borders, north and south. Bill O'Reilly has long stated that this should be done by our military since our national security is at stake. Just ask the people living near the Mexican border.
13 posted on 12/19/2001 3:34:10 AM PST by Dante3
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America can do nothing, mexican drug dealers have free run of the country!! Lawyers and law people stay out of their way, ask Leahy.. and the crooked judges...
14 posted on 12/19/2001 3:58:05 AM PST by mbb bill
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Known as "The Frog" because of his jowls and double chins, drug suspect Humberto Rodriguez Banuelos was a bad bet as a patient: He once allegedly ordered the killing of a traffic cop who dared give him a ticket.

Prosecutors say he also ordered the 1994 killing of his doctor.

"He ordered the doctor killed, because he said he didn't like the way the liposuction had turned out," said Horacio Montenegro, a former associate who is himself now facing drug charges

Humberto Rodriguez Banuelos was notorious as a shooter for the Ramiro Mireles-Felix drug cartel, and possibly also the Hererra family operations- the lines blur somewhat, sometimes multiple players profit from a single elimination, and duplicity and *wearing two hats* is commonplace.

There's little doubt though, that Banuelos was one of the triggermen at the Guadalajara airport in 1993 during which Cardinal Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo- in which AK47s were also the trademark shooters' tools.

See following. But in my circles, a guy called *The Frog* would be el sapo, rather than La Rana:

MEXICO FINDS WANTED DRUG HIT-MAN

MEXICO CITY -- Police have found one of Mexico's most wanted drug hit men exactly where they want to put him -- in prison.

Humberto Rodriguez Banuelos -- wanted in a 1993 shootout that killed a Roman Catholic cardinal -- was awaiting trial under a false name in a Tijuana prison, prosecutors said Tuesday.

The alleged top hitman for the Arellano Felix drug cartel, known as "La Rana" -- The Frog -- had assumed the name Carlos Duran, had liposuction, a facelift and a hair implant to fool police.

He had been in jail for three months facing separate murder charges before prosecutors discovered his false name, date and place of birth didn't match official records.

The detection was proof that police are hitting hard against all drug gangs, said Attorney General Rafael Macedo de la Concha.

"Neither the Arellano Felixes nor any other drug trafficker is getting impunity," said Macedo de la Concha.

The administration of President Vicente Fox has dealt severe blows to the remnants of the Gulf cocaine cartel in raids earlier this year, but had failed to arrest any top members of the Tijuana-based Arellano Felix gang, Mexico's most violent.

The issue is a sensitive one, since Mexico's former top anti-drug official, Gen. Jesus Gutierrez Rebollo, was arrested in 1997 for hitting hard against the Tijuana gang -- in exchange for payoffs from a rival cartel.

The Frog was transferred Tuesday from his Tijuana jail cell to a federal prison in the western Mexico city of Guadalajara.

Rodriguez Banuelos faces charges of homicide, drug trafficking and illegal weapons possession in Tijuana, and organized crime, homicide and kidnapping charges in Guadalajara.

He allegedly masterminded a 1983 assassination attempt against rival drug lord Amado Carrillo Fuentes, and participated in a 1993 shootout at the Guadalajara airport in which Cardinal Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo was killed in the cross fire.

15 posted on 12/19/2001 7:01:44 AM PST by archy
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To: glc1173@aol.com
" The "difference" starts with whether the Mexican truck is even insured. "

All drivers have to show proof of insurance to cross the border in either direction. I have driven across many borders on four continents and always had to show proof of insurance. There are international insurance companies that issue special policies.

Next false issue?

16 posted on 12/19/2001 2:27:30 PM PST by bayourod
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To: expose
"DRUGS "

Please explain the difference in drug smuggling between trucks driving fifty miles into the US and trucks driving 500 miles?

17 posted on 12/19/2001 2:30:10 PM PST by bayourod
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