[pcl]

Your conversation with week 71 was interesting. The field you are discussing is called Quantum Cosmology. If you search the web for the term you will find the good doctor has the right idea. Something does come from nothing.

If anyone is interested they might start Why Steven Hawking's Cosmology Precludes a Creator

[PatrickHenry]

Placemarker.

[week 71]

Your conversation with week 71 was interesting. The field you are discussing is called Quantum Cosmology. If you search the web for the term you will find the good doctor has the right idea. Something does come from nothing.

I'm glad you enjoyed the discussion.The problem with the above is it is terrible philosophy! To say that nothing does something is a nonsense statement. Science that allows uncaused effects is akin to speaking of square circles. It is one thing to say ELECTRONS (not the univers, for as even Hawking must concede,quatum mechanical actions apply only to the micro, not to macro systems. The relative uncertainty approaches zero as the number of quantum particles in the system increases) behave in certain ways for uncertain reasons, and quite another to say they behave in certain ways for no reason at all.

Logic, which is the "supreme court of science" dictates that we can not have something that is here and not here at the same time and in the same relationship. If an atomic particle can do that, it can do something that not even God can do.

[week 71]

One more thing, if some theologian declared that God can be in New York and not be in New York at the same time and in the same relationship, he would be laughed to scorn by the scientists. Sometimes I can't help for laughing at the attribution of this same ability to an electron.