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Lieberman calls for funds to fix up places of worship
New Haven Register ( Register guns, register religions, register...) ^ | December 18, 2001 | Christopher Hoffman

Posted on 12/18/2001 8:44:21 AM PST by the

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I thought that this surreal local item might be of interest to readers beyond the Nutmeg State. I searched and did not see it posted yet.
1 posted on 12/18/2001 8:44:21 AM PST by the
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.... and mosques. Hasn't he been paying attention? No wait, there's votes to be bribed.
2 posted on 12/18/2001 8:46:34 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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U.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman
and Diane Cohen, co-director
of Partners for Sacred Places,
at the Omega Seventh-day Adventist
Church on Winthrop Avenue in New Haven
Monday. Mia M. Malafronte/Register

3 posted on 12/18/2001 8:46:43 AM PST by the
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Take God out of the schools and put goverment in the church. He's got that backassward.
4 posted on 12/18/2001 8:50:20 AM PST by steve50
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I'm sorry, but I oppose giving government money to those who don't pay taxes. Come to think of it, I oppose giving government money away on anything.
5 posted on 12/18/2001 8:55:29 AM PST by camle
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Lieberman calls for funds to fix up places of worship

Why not?

We're spemding millions dropping cakes out of airplanes in Afghanistan to celebrate Ramadan, aren't we?

6 posted on 12/18/2001 8:56:28 AM PST by ppaul
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Fix them up with private donations. End of story.
7 posted on 12/18/2001 8:56:38 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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The National Park Service operates the Mission Parks in San Antonio, Texas, while the Catholic Church continues to operate the sanctuary in each Misssion as an active church.

http://hotx.com/missions/info.html

How the National Park Service runs ANY active church is beyond me. I must have been sick the day my Constitutional Law professor covered how the 1st Amendment forbids local schools from even allowing prayer, while allowing the U.S. Government to maintain and operate churches.

8 posted on 12/18/2001 9:01:01 AM PST by Pilsner
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LIEberman is full of SH*T on this one. I hope the ACLU howls like stuck pigs and stops this cold. If LIEberman has his way, we will all get stuck paying to fix up a Louis Farrakkan "Mosque", a Worldwide Church of Satan "chapel", a Scientology resort, blah, blah, BLAH.
9 posted on 12/18/2001 9:01:24 AM PST by RooRoobird14
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US planes will drop 46,000lb of cake to mark the end of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan

10 posted on 12/18/2001 9:01:52 AM PST by ppaul
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"We can't tell American history . . . without talking about the history of our sacred places"
It is far more important, IMHO, to talk about the religious component of American (especially immigrant) culture.
Firstly, it is a historical fact that Europe was "Christendom" at the time of the immigration of our Founding Fathers (or their ancestors).

Secondly, the map of percentage of various ethnic groups correlates with the percentages of corresponding religious affiliations.

The First Amendment is an artifact of the variety of Christian denominations in America which were strong enough to wield an effective veto over any federal established church--or federally established atheism, which now seems much more possible than the framers would then have believed.
11 posted on 12/18/2001 9:01:56 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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Fix them up with private donations. End of story.

Amen

12 posted on 12/18/2001 9:02:40 AM PST by B-bone
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Creech acknowledged he's concerned about the strings that governmental agencies might attach to such aid.

He added a program could work as long as churches could continue to infuse their work with nondenominational spirituality.


Hey, I just go reassigned to Master State Church # 4334.

It is on the other side of town, but no bother, the government says it will bus me there for free!

It seems that they don't have a proper ethnic mix over there, and my church has too many people that look like me.

Big Brother's Will Be Done

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13 posted on 12/18/2001 9:05:23 AM PST by the
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Re: US Planes droppint 46,000 pounds of cake

Do you think they remembered to use "all-vegetable" shortening?

14 posted on 12/18/2001 9:07:02 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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Wintrop Avenue...nice place.....if you're a bullet
15 posted on 12/18/2001 9:08:58 AM PST by Puppage
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Why not?

1. First Amendment violation
2. 10th Amendment violation
3. Tax benefits provided to non-taxpayers
4. Sets exceedingly horrible precedent (taxpayers funding construction of churches)

"…to compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves, is sinful and tyrannical; that even the forcing him to support this or that teacher of his own religious persuasion, is depriving him of the comfortable liberty of giving his contributions to the particular pastor, whose morals he would make his pattern, and whose powers he feels most persuasive to righteousness, and is withdrawing from the ministry those temporary rewards…"

- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom

Raising money for the construcion of churches must always be a voluntary venture. NEVER must the metaphorical tax agent come to your door and say, "We're building/fixing a church. It doesn't matter if you share its religious convictions. PAY UP OR ELSE."

16 posted on 12/18/2001 9:09:04 AM PST by freeeee
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More CT wackiness.
17 posted on 12/18/2001 9:11:23 AM PST by the
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Yeah. That Jefferson quote oughta be posted everywhere!
But what about cakes for Ramadan?
(see #10 above.)
18 posted on 12/18/2001 9:12:11 AM PST by ppaul
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But what about cakes for Ramadan?

Some may call that 'winning the hearts and minds' of the locals in a matter of national security.

But even if it isn't right, even if it isn't constitutional, it in no way justifies another wrong.

19 posted on 12/18/2001 9:15:59 AM PST by freeeee
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More CT wackiness.

And how!
The land of Yale, the Alan Gutmacher Institute, Christopher Dodd, etc., etc., ad nauseaum.

20 posted on 12/18/2001 9:17:08 AM PST by ppaul
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