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To: Ridin' Shotgun
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," an early 20th century hoax by the b Russian czar's secret police that purported to reveal a Jewish plan to dominate the world ... (from the article in question ...)
If that book is not anti-semitic, what the devil IS anti-semitic? (from your post, #101)

If it was the RUSSIANS who purportedly revealed this plan, why are you screaming at Americans instead of Russians.

Czarists made it up in the 1890's as a way to forment anti-Semetism. Remember it was the governm,ent of Czar's Alexander and Nicholas that gave teh world the term pogrom. Anti-semetism propoganda was a tool of the rascist regime to keep power by chaneling political activism, which was forming against the regime, into a more manageable form. Also, the Russian Cazars whipped up Russian Nationalism as a who and funding Slavophile institituions in order to suppress growing nationalism among Ukranians, Poles, Baltic peoples.... Some of the propoganda was ridiculous. At a time when the Russians had expanded to the Amur River, the Slavophiles were ranting about the next Mongol-tatar army which would sweep into Kiev.

Amazing, isn't it. Somehow your people managed to tick off the Germans and the Russians, and now somehow it seems that you're terrified that Americans might also become ticked off, but none of you are willing to openly and honestly debate what it WAS that so ticked off these other nations.

Blame the victim, why don't you! I'm sure the Crusaders taht decimated the Jewish communities along the Rhine also had reasons. The English had a clear reason (defaulting on debts and stealing property) when they expelled all Jews in the 13th century.
The truth is that almost all Anti-semetic actions come from jealousy and hatred. The Nazis not only wanted to exterminate Jews, but stole from us. I'm sure you would like the same.

I, for one, do NOT believe it was the regular, average German or Russian Jew that created these 'pograms', it was the Zionist idiology behind the scenes, vigorously supported by the average Jewish guy and gal on the street, that turned these people against ALL things Jewish.

Political Zionism was created after the Dreyfuss Affair in France, where the French wrongly convicted a Jewish officer for spying fo rthe Germans. What explains the anti-Semetism in France? What explains Anti-Semetism before 1888?
I suppose you think that the Klan was justified in the 1960's because the niggers became upity thanks to Scalawags and communists. (I'm using his language not mine. No offense intended to Blacks or to law-abiding Southerners.)

Kneejerk, backlash ... And yes, it IS happening here too because of the deep denial, name calling and hatred being displayed by Israel's powerful Amen corner here in America toward people who dare to question Israels expansionist policies, who dare to resent Israel's spying on her 'allies', and who dare to question Israel's incredible pre-eminence in determining US policies. Sometimes people are their own worst enemy. That's sad.
1. Expansionist policies? What are you talking about? Currently, Israel only controls the 1/3 of Palestine west of the Jordan river and is in negotiations to give up 1/3 of that land. The only expansionists I see are the revanchinst Muslims and their sympathysers in the west.
2. As for spying, why is it that Israeli intell is given by the US to the Arabs? The fact is that America spies on everyone and everyone spies on the US. The difference is that Israel does not pass the info on to America's mortal enemies.
3. What about the Arabist State department, the Oil industry, and the US arms industry which all favour the Arabs? Does the US give billions to Egypt and the PLO for Israel's sake?

212 posted on 12/17/2001 2:06:59 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew
Although I could challenge many of the points you make, I will satisfy myself (for the moment) by addressing just one of the points in your rant. Expansionist policies? Please explain the meaning of the term 'greater Israel', or 'eretz Israel'. While Israel is bulldozing Palestinian homes every day and erecting homes and apartment buildings on that land for Israeli's, in what way is the term expansionist not accurate?
214 posted on 12/17/2001 2:29:26 PM PST by Ridin' Shotgun
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