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Anti-Semitism - Hate Hits the Mainstream
LA Times ^ | 12/17/01 | ABRAHAM COOPER

Posted on 12/17/2001 6:01:47 AM PST by veronica

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

-SNIP-Ominously, the Abu Dhabi series reflects the mainstreaming of anti-Semitism across the Arab world. Saudi Arabian and Egyptian TV are debating whether to air a 30-part miniseries, "Horseman Without a Horse," which is based on the debunked canard "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," an early 20th century hoax by the Russian czar's secret police that purported to reveal a Jewish plan to dominate the world. The book, a virtual prescription for genocide, has been invoked by every Jew hater from Adolf Hitler to Louis Farrakhan. THE REST HERE ...

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To: SJackson
Oh come now. There are no anti-Semites! Do you hear me...DO YOU?? (-;
41 posted on 12/17/2001 6:47:39 AM PST by veronica
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To: tex-oma
Hey, don't you know the rules here on FR? veronica is the official FR anti-Semite detector and labeler. There is no appeal from her judgements, they are final. If you dare protest, the entire Israel-over-America promotion crowd will swoop in and peck your eyes out.

Funny! I'm waiting for all these "words have no meaning" folks to poke at a Democrat or Clinton in a future post for improper or incorrect use of the language. They rail when Clinton mouths the Elastic-Depends-On-How-You-Define-The-Word-Is-Lie-Of-The-Day, but for the life of me, I do not know why, given their attitude on this.

All I suggested was that *THE MEDIA* use words correctly. I wasn't aware that this was an offensive request.

42 posted on 12/17/2001 6:48:00 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Lumberjack;BrooklynGOP;veronica
"Wow, sorry to offend you with expecting a word to mean something. Please, feel free to abuse the language in any way you see fit. Don't let me and all us rigid "word-ists" stop you, ok?"

I've always heard that when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you want to do is stop digging. Apparently you heard something different.

Look, Einstein -- I used your dictionary to blow holes in your claimed definition -- it says precisely what you insist is the wrong definition.

So let me get this straight -- I'm out of line, I'm abusing the language, because I use the standard definition, which is even confirmed by the reference you supplied?

Get back under your bridge, troll!

43 posted on 12/17/2001 6:48:50 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Lumberjack
This hate is just never going to end, unless all the three riligeons recognize that confrontation, hostility, and bring back the past is only deteriorating conditions between people.

It would be wonderfull if all the religous leaders, the political leaders, the intelengensia simply got together and desided to let the world on one big secret! That is all the three religeons are just the invention of some desert people. The concepts were good to establish civility. However, in the 21st century, we are way past this BS! I would love for the pope, the sheikh of Azhar, the chief rabi, to just have a joint conference were they let the rest of the us on that long kept secret. God is a concept that should live in our hearts. It is not the scriptures. The scriptures were written by desert people that favors women. The scriptures were not given to us by God, they were writen by men, to establish better conduct between people.

By defintion, each religeon MUST teach its people that they are right and the rest are wrong. That is important in order to keep market share, and even capture market share from adverseries. the problem in this picture, is people get so wraped up in their zealot for their perceived right, and the rewards in heaven, that they behave irrationally.

It is about time that people on this planet began to realize how stupid is all that hate. I am not saying the hate is coming from the Moslem side alone, there is plenty of hate coming from the Jewish side too. The Christians are not too dangerous at this point, because they have been defanged for many years.

Jews who don't believe in God, yet they want to kill themselves in defense of a worthless desert; simply because "GOD" promised them that desert. Moslems, who want to kill every body or convert the whole world into Islam; a barbaric religeon, to the extent of dying in the process and getting 72 vigins! What is it with this virgin thing! The entire barbaric history of the three religeons deals with the VIRGIN stories. Can some body bring the news to these stupid people that an experienced hore is much better than a virgin!

I am so tired of this subject, I will shut up, for now

44 posted on 12/17/2001 6:49:38 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
I am so tired of this subject, I will shut up, for now

Praise God.

45 posted on 12/17/2001 6:52:24 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Lumberjack
For an Arab to be anti-Semitic would be the same as a white person being anti-Caucasian.

All you have done is to split the hair down the middle while ignoring the subject at hand, and by a trick of verbal legerdemain make a horse chestnut into a chestnut horse.

I prefer to use the good old fashioned term Jew hater.

46 posted on 12/17/2001 6:53:31 AM PST by Alouette
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To: BrooklynGOP
I know what the definition of anti-semite is, and I know it is an incorrect use of the word Semite when applied to Arabs hating Jews. I also know that many if not most people call all facial tissue Kleenex as well, but hey, they must be right since they call it that, right? There are even dictionaries that define "Kleenex" as any facial tissue or "soft absorbent paper". But in the media, they are still required to NOT use the word Kleenex unless specifically refering to the trade brand of the company that manufactures Kleenex.

Now granted, anti-semite is not a trade name. But is is an incorrect usage of the word semite, period.

You win. Words are inconsequential. Its all how we define them at the moment, subject to change at any time, for any reason. You win.

47 posted on 12/17/2001 6:55:09 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: DreamWeaver
Oooh, it's Tweedlefritz und Tweedlefratzen! Der taggen team ist backenzie und der <<Republick-Freeundzen>>!

You go getten der judenposterheimeren!

48 posted on 12/17/2001 6:55:46 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Lumberjack
Now granted, anti-semite is not a trade name. But is is an incorrect usage of the word semite, period.

Not according to the dictionary... But if you say its so, then it must be. Tell me, does antipasto means to be against food since pasto means "food" (from Latin)?

49 posted on 12/17/2001 6:57:01 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Lumberjack
You're right, how foolish of me to state in the open that those in the media should use words correctly. The next thing you know, I'll be expecting Congress and the Supreme Court to follow the wording of the Constitution, under the evidently false notion that words have meaning.

It is no wonder the Democrats and Socialists are able to subvert this nation so easily. Its not that words are used incorrectly, but that so many people get upset when you request that those in official publications use words correctly.

You know, I'd say something like, "Put down the shovel, and climb out with your hands up," but you're clearly beyond redemption.

Pick me up some eggrolls when you hit China, OK?

50 posted on 12/17/2001 6:57:49 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: philosofy123
I made a mistake. The three religeons are anti women, not pro-women!
51 posted on 12/17/2001 6:58:23 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: Alouette
It's MUCH more important to quibble and noodle around about the 'semantics' of the term than confront the evil itself, apparently.
52 posted on 12/17/2001 6:59:11 AM PST by veronica
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To: Don Joe
Didn't you see my post? You win. Words have no meaning, and are subject to change at the whim of the person using them. You win. Now please, go about your business proudly. I'll stop asking that the media use words correctly, especially since this concept offends you so much. You win, get it?
53 posted on 12/17/2001 7:03:06 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: philosofy123
But they can spell!!
54 posted on 12/17/2001 7:03:07 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: Lumberjack;BrooklynGOP;veronica
"I'm not in the media and typing at a fast rate. I only suggested that those in the media use words correctly."

Exactly how do you define "correctly," Your Majesty?

I mean, hell, I used your dictionary to provide the definition that you continue to insist is wrong!

"I'm sorry that this offends you."

Huh? Is "that this" some new kind of "correct"?

At some point you've got to snap out of this, right?

PS: is a "lumberjack" someone who "lumbers" around doing "jack"? Just trying to deconstruct using the same ruleset you insist on applying to "antisemite", sorry if that (this?) offends you.

55 posted on 12/17/2001 7:03:08 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Lumberjack
Didn't you see my post? You win. Words have no meaning, and are subject to change at the whim of the person using them.

Exactly. Why bother going by the definition from the dictionary when you can make up your own meaning of the word antisemite? Good stuff, lumberdrek.

56 posted on 12/17/2001 7:05:24 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Don Joe
Apparently Webster's Dictionary is 'the media' now.
57 posted on 12/17/2001 7:05:29 AM PST by veronica
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To: Don Joe
PS: is a "lumberjack" someone who "lumbers" around doing "jack"?

Actually, according to one of the two possible definitions lumberjack could mean "A short, warm outer jacket. Also called lumber jacket".

59 posted on 12/17/2001 7:06:39 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: veronica
"It is extremely instructional when characters like you visit a thread like this LOL..."

What gets me is how they seem to think they're so damn subtle -- instead of as blaringly obvious as they are.

Ever see The Blues Brothers? Remember that scene where the car is falling to oblivion, and one character says to the other, "I've always loved you"? That's what these brownshirt tagteams remind me of, LOL!

60 posted on 12/17/2001 7:06:48 AM PST by Don Joe
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