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Anti-Semitism - Hate Hits the Mainstream
LA Times ^ | 12/17/01 | ABRAHAM COOPER

Posted on 12/17/2001 6:01:47 AM PST by veronica

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:48 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

-SNIP-Ominously, the Abu Dhabi series reflects the mainstreaming of anti-Semitism across the Arab world. Saudi Arabian and Egyptian TV are debating whether to air a 30-part miniseries, "Horseman Without a Horse," which is based on the debunked canard "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," an early 20th century hoax by the Russian czar's secret police that purported to reveal a Jewish plan to dominate the world. The book, a virtual prescription for genocide, has been invoked by every Jew hater from Adolf Hitler to Louis Farrakhan. THE REST HERE ...

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To: Rooper
Israelis and Palestinian Arabs are genetically identical, therefore Anti-Semitism is not racism, but religious hatred and discrimination.

Thank you.

21 posted on 12/17/2001 6:33:15 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Lumberjack
Arabs, by definition, cannot be anti-semitic. Semites are peoples of the Near East and Northern Africa, including Arabs, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews and Phoenicians.

For an Arab to be anti-Semitic would be the same as a white person being anti-Caucasian.

Sorry, but I really do expect people in the media to at least recognize basic word definitions. Call me a dreamer.

Interesting theory, but I think you'd have more credibility with it if you tried applying it to something smaller first, to prove its viability.

So, why don't you get back with us after you convince everyone that "gay" really means "happy", OK?

22 posted on 12/17/2001 6:34:04 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Rooper
Genetically similar, but that means nothing. Croats, Serbs and so-called Bosinaks are of the same ethnic group.
23 posted on 12/17/2001 6:35:13 AM PST by lavrenti
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To: veronica
I did not imply you are a liar. If you have another definition from a credible source please post it. To claim it is 'semantics' to use the PROPER dictionary-based term for something, well, that's Clintonesque.

See link in previous post.

Doesn't the Bible also alude to them as the descendents of Shem?

24 posted on 12/17/2001 6:35:52 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Don Joe
Wow, sorry to offend you with expecting a word to mean something. Please, feel free to abuse the language in any way you see fit. Don't let me and all us rigid "word-ists" stop you, ok?
26 posted on 12/17/2001 6:37:20 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Lumberjack
Arabs, by definition, cannot be anti-semitic.

Sure they can. Anti Semitic refers solely to discrimination against and hatred for Jews, it has no racial component. The term was coined in the late 1800’s by Wilhelm Marr as the name for a German political party whose objective was the expulsion of Jews from western Europe.

27 posted on 12/17/2001 6:38:17 AM PST by SJackson
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To: Lumberjack
Gee, sorry to request that people use words correctly. I'll revert to the standard Clintonese expectation of elastic words. Again, I appologize if my rigid "word prejudice" has offended anybody.

Oh, please. Why don't you just have a good cry, and get it out of your system, eh?

Perhaps your dictionary has a definition for "common usage"? Do you correct people who say things like, "I could care less," informing them that they mean the opposite of what they say? Do you really believe that anyone does not know what is meant by the phrase, "anti-semitic"? I mean, really?

PS: you will note that I did not at any point invoke the phrase, "anal-retentive", even though I was sorely tempted. Now, I suppose you'll nail me for the misplaced comma after that closing quote. Oh, damn -- now I'm gonna get it for saying "quote" instead of "quotation mark". I guess it's just not my day...

28 posted on 12/17/2001 6:38:46 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: lavrenti
Genetically similar, but that means nothing. Croats, Serbs and so-called Bosinaks are of the same ethnic group.

So then you would feel comfortable labeling them as "anti-slavic"?

29 posted on 12/17/2001 6:38:47 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: tex-oma
Hey, don't you know the rules here on FR? veronica is the official FR anti-Semite detector and labeler.

ROFL.... Yes, I can see you too have her number.....

31 posted on 12/17/2001 6:41:46 AM PST by DreamWeaver
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To: Don Joe
You're right, how foolish of me to state in the open that those in the media should use words correctly. The next thing you know, I'll be expecting Congress and the Supreme Court to follow the wording of the Constitution, under the evidently false notion that words have meaning.

It is no wonder the Democrats and Socialists are able to subvert this nation so easily. Its not that words are used incorrectly, but that so many people get upset when you request that those in official publications use words correctly.

32 posted on 12/17/2001 6:42:25 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Lumberjack
Doesn't the Bible also alude to them as the descendents of Shem?

No one is arguing about the definition of "semite" we are arguing about the definition of "antisemite'.. I already posted the definition from webster dictionary.. You can post the definition of "semite" and the word "anti" all you want, but sometimes a whole is different from the sum of its parts...

By the way. Does antipasto mean someone who hates food (pasto means food)?

33 posted on 12/17/2001 6:42:55 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Ruggers
I'm not in the media and typing at a fast rate. I only suggested that those in the media use words correctly. I'm sorry that this offends you.
34 posted on 12/17/2001 6:43:27 AM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Lumberjack
Usage defines meaning. Nobody uses the term "anti-Semite" to refer to Arabs, no matter that Jews and Arabs are both technically Semites. Anti-Semite is universally used to refer to Jews only.
35 posted on 12/17/2001 6:44:29 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: Lumberjack;BrooklynGOP;veronica
"http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/disc.pl?term=semite"

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BTW, you might want to type "antisemite" into the box on that page and see what you get. Here's what I got:

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=antisemite

an·ti-Sem·ite (nt-smt, nt-)
n.
One who discriminates against or who is hostile toward or prejudiced against Jews.

Golly, Lumberjack. Looks like that tree just landed on your head. Sorry 'bout that.

36 posted on 12/17/2001 6:44:30 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Lumberjack
You're right, how foolish of me to state in the open that those in the media should use words correctly

All this talk from you, and you still have to paste the definition you claim is correct from a dictionary, or show that your definition is correct one at least de facto.

37 posted on 12/17/2001 6:44:32 AM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Lumberjack
Feel free to share the definition of "anti-semite" you found in your dictionary.

If a carjacker is a person who steals cars, what does that mean that a lumberjack does?

38 posted on 12/17/2001 6:44:33 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: tex-oma, DreamWeaver
It is extremely instructional when characters like you visit a thread like this LOL...
39 posted on 12/17/2001 6:45:37 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
More news suppressed by The Boston Globe and the New York Times. Ask them why.

The Boston Globe

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Dorchester, MA 02107-2378

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The New York Times

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40 posted on 12/17/2001 6:47:17 AM PST by pabianice
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