It's Official: JDL SET UP (Followers of Kahane Are Subjects of Inquiry)

New York Times - today - Requires Registration ^ | December 16, 2001 | Dean E. Murphy

[VaBthang4]

"SET UP"

Huh?

[Mixer]

If people think we are are profiling Arabs and Muslims they only need to look at the percentage of people involved in 9/11 to find that it ay for the first time ever be justified profiling.

However the arrest of the JDL memebers does help to show that we are after TERRORISTS regardless of religion or race.

[babble-on]

Absolutely right. Terror is terror.

[Silvertip]

fyi bump

[AnnaZ]

PING!

[Rodney King]

A friend of the guys arrested says that they were set up, and that makes it official?

I find it quite interesting the way some people are scrambling to defend these guys, who have known to have committed acts of violence before, before we have any real knowledge about the case.

[lelio]

He said the Kahane followers in Brooklyn had only one goal, to spread the word of Rabbi Kahane.
"There are not Jewish terrorists," he said.
So lesse if you preach the words of someone that wants to terrorize another group you're not a terrorist.

[Billy_bob_bob]

"In the complaint filed in Los Angeles, federal authorities accuse Mr. Rubin and Mr. Krugel of plotting to set off pipe bombs at a mosque in the Los Angeles area as well as at the office of Representative Darrell Issa, whose grandfather was Lebanese."

So, these guys were planning on blowing up a mosque and a California Congressman. Do I have this right? Now, let's do the following exercise: Let's imagine that instead of the JDL being the accused party here, that some militant white racist milita types had been caught in the same situation. Do you think the media coverage of this might be a little more through? Perhaps a bit more repetition and coverage of the basic incident?

Is there any doubt?

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." George Orwell, Animal Farm.

[Sabramerican]

There was no terror.

Was there a conspiracy or was there entrapment?

In similar cases, on FR, the Government would not get the benefit of the doubt without proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Rodney King]

In similar cases, on FR, the Government would not get the benefit of the doubt without proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

I would say that the title of the thread certainly indicates strong support for the accused. I mean, if their friend says so..it's official!

[Sabramerican]

If you have a point to my post- I missed it.

[Arkinsaw]

Official? Didn't see it in there.

[dennisw]

This is 100% bs to make the Muslim nations feel better. Irv and company are THE OVER THE HILL GANG!

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

A friend of the guys arrested says that they were set up, and that makes it official?

Right on Rodney!!! Good grief!!! Where are all these "Government is the Boogie Man wierdo's" coming from lately??? FR is full of them of late. I think it is ANOTHER effort from some quarter to squash our patriotism and then eventually our liberties. Rise the masses so to speak. Well, it won't work here!!!

[BenF]

In similar cases, on FR, the Government would not get the benefit of the doubt without proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

This is true. However, Jews are a special case with the government. That being said, these particular Jews are incredibly stupid. Had the mosque been blown up, the "America Firsters" here in FR would have used it to tar all Jews with the same brush.

[Rodney King]

You seemed to be indicating that these guys were getting harsh treatment, I was pointing out that they weren't, but you knew that.

[Lent]

Welcome to prosecuting in the new Politically correct style. When Kahane was murdered the FBI sat on their arses in failing to pursue clear leads concerning Islamic terrorists propagating in the U.S. Then came the first Twin Towers bombing three years after Kahane's murder. Still nothing. Now look how fast they jumped all over the JDL. Pathetic.

[Cold Heat]

Gimmea break! I'm supposed to believe this! Let's see what the jury has to say.

[monkeyshine]

What acts of violence have they been involved in? I know they have punched a few people out in the past, but did they ever get prosecuted for shooting or bombing or terrorizing anyone before?

I agree all terrorists should be apprehended regardless of race or religion. On the evidence it looks like these two guys deserved to be arrested. I will let a jury handle the rest.

It is possible they were set up -- possibly like DeLorian was set up. That is, they may have gone along with an idea that a government plant put together. DeLorian went along with the cocaine selling conspiracy but it was the feds who provided him with the idea, the contacts, the cocaine and the cash. That's why he was acquitted on the basis of entrapment. It is possible that these JDL guys were set up the same way. It terms of morality Delorian was wrong for going along with such a stupid plan, but legally he was entitled to walk. Likewise if this is how it went down for them, the JDL guys are dumb and evil for going along with it. I bet the JDL will pursue a similar defense strategy as DeLorian. We'll see.