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To: MissAmericanPie
I don't disagree with the article but then I don't wholly agree with it either. If we look at the success of America it is surely do to freedom and an exuberant work ethic. An abbundance of raw materials didn't hurt either. We're really just transplanted europeans after all. Genetically there is certainly no difference. The keys to our prosperity are unbridled capitalism, our constitution, our 'newness' and a strong religious morality.

I really don't think the 'America Haters' are all that much of a problem. They are an elite few really that do not have the power to dampen even raw capitalism, let alone patriotism and religious reverence for the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. The America Haters are a symptom not a cause.

The cause is widespread societal decadence. That is why I have been saying all along that this new found patriotism is as wide as an ocean ... and as deep as a puddle. You cannot fix a society with a fifty percent divorce rate (and that does not take into account everybody's multiple marriages), an astronmical illegitimate birth rate, and the wholesale death of real, heartfelt and effective religious worship.

Pointing the finger at the vocal few who preach hatred of America will do nothing to change things. Societal decadence has been seen in this nation before and it only lowers its malevolent head at the blast of World War or economic collapse. Or both.

14 posted on 12/16/2001 9:31:52 AM PST by mercy
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To: mercy
I agree that the above is a symptom of an overall illness, but to the degree that a symptom of a disease can be filling the lungs with fluid and drowning the victim. It's a biggy as far as I can see when the hate America first, self loathing crowd, exibits the, "I am ready to die someone come euthenize me", symptom. It indicates to me that they must be fought off even with a fever, the heat of which should be felt by them in withering hot condemnation from the healthy members of the body.
16 posted on 12/16/2001 10:04:47 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: mercy
I really don't think the 'America Haters' are all that much of a problem. They are an elite few really that do not have the power to dampen even raw capitalism, let alone patriotism and religious reverence for the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. The America Haters are a symptom not a cause.

Have you ventured onto a college campus lately? There's more than a few and they are in a good position to influence those still young enough to have their opinions changed easily. I'm not saying that 20 year olds aren't intellegent; only that they are inexperienced and more easily influenced than those who have been around the block a time or two.

I'd say that the American haters are both a symptom and a cause.

25 posted on 12/18/2001 8:11:59 PM PST by meyer
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