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To: Zon
Do you advocate upholding the 2nd Amendment or do you advocate gun control?

I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

12 posted on 12/15/2001 6:43:14 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: VA Advogado
But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

Let me know how asking for permission works out.

16 posted on 12/15/2001 6:47:02 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: VA Advogado
Do you mean you want a law that permits people to CCW?
23 posted on 12/15/2001 6:56:35 PM PST by Zon
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

Either you just lied or you're ignorant. A national CCW law would violate the 2nd Amendment -- in infringes on a person's right to keep and bear arms. I'll let you correct the error by asking again: Do you advocate upholding the 2nd Amendment or do you advocate gun control?

26 posted on 12/15/2001 7:00:27 PM PST by Zon
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

That's the whole point. YOU already have the right to carry arms; concealed or otherwise. The problem is WE have allowed the government to infringe/take the right away. Folks like you want to request/beg the Governent for the privlege (with severe restrictions) to excersise a God given right you already had; as recognized by the Constitution. At least the Libertarians understand the argument.

30 posted on 12/15/2001 7:06:52 PM PST by suijuris
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW

I disagree, I think it helps by making a permit system, with background investigations and mandatory training look downride "common sense". Not that I agree with that notion. The second amendment does not have any exceptions for concealed carry, nor for carry in cities, or most anywhere. Private property excepted of course, the owner can make any restrictions he/she/ or they choose.

36 posted on 12/15/2001 7:18:11 PM PST by El Gato
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

A national CCW would mean getting permission from the Feds to carry, that is pure insanity! The only workable soultion is CCW permits issued by every state, recognized nationally.

40 posted on 12/15/2001 7:23:12 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: VA Advogado
How is dealing with local issues and a local law taking away from CCW? Give me a break.
44 posted on 12/15/2001 7:28:21 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: VA Advogado
"I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW"

Ok, guess we'll all step back and let you handle it since you obviously know whats best. Sheesh...

53 posted on 12/15/2001 7:38:35 PM PST by monday
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To: VA Advogado
But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

If it was required that the government give you permission to carry your firearm, there wouldn't be a second amendment. There is no necessity for a special law allowing you to carry your firearm anyhwere you please.

What is needed is for people to stop obeying these laws and work to get rid of every statute which restricts even the slightest on this matter.

74 posted on 12/15/2001 8:10:05 PM PST by Demidog
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

Why do you want to have to get the government's permission to be prepared to defend yourself and your family? The bad guys don't care about the laws, so the only people affected by them are folks who aren't about to make trouble to begin with.

177 posted on 12/15/2001 9:33:54 PM PST by John R. (Bob) Locke
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To: VA Advogado
"Do you advocate upholding the 2nd Amendment or do you advocate gun control?

I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

Conceal carry is a government permit. You must apply for government's permission to carry a means of self-protection, and this mind-set is where you're coming from?

It's little wonder you refer to this very brave challenge as a "....silly stunt....". You have over 20,000 reasons as a foundation for arguing government is violating your God given freedom. That's not just "silly". That's surrender. The path of a fence sitter.

234 posted on 12/16/2001 2:53:34 AM PST by Robert Drobot
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

If you read the article, one may not sue the city unless they have "standing." This "stunt" gives him standing to pursue the case.

A national CCW is first, asking permission to exercise your rights, and second a database for future confiscation.

For a such a smug, self-impotant twit, you aren't very bright.

318 posted on 12/16/2001 2:55:40 PM PST by MileHi
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To: VA Advogado
And a national database.
445 posted on 12/17/2001 11:10:44 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: VA Advogado
I am all for the 2nd Amendment. But silly stunts like this take away from those of us that want national CCW.

SILLY STUNT?.....
Like the Boston Tea Party?
Like Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat to a white person?

458 posted on 12/17/2001 6:06:32 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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