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Scientist Found Slain In His Loudoun Home (2 More Bio-Experts Dead, EbolaVictimMissing)
|Washington Post, Reuters, Australian Newspaper ^
| December 12, 2001
| News Staffs
Posted on 12/12/2001 4:56:49 PM PST by t-shirt
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: OwenKellogg; Nita Nupress; rubbertramp
A random thought--- Could be that the actual 'connected' disappearances/murders (and we only strongly suspect we'll find a connection or common thread) have to do with "Prevention".
Prevention of disclosure of a piece of the bigger picture or Prevention of the possibility of future 'Networking'.
There would need to be false trails laid.
Just an early thought.
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posted on
12/13/2001 5:25:16 PM PST
by
rdavis84
To: t-shirt
Clinton was having the CIA work on some secret biological attack plans without Congressional knowledge.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least bit, and I'll bet ole Clinton was bedding with Osamas MaMa as well! Grassontop
To: CFW
The Afghan variety isn't the same as the African variety known as 'Ebola' in Uganda. Common in asia, but nasty stuff, though- spread mainly by ticks from areas where there is a lot of livestock... though it can be spread by infected people, coughing or sneezing. Lyme disease looks tame by comparison.
another report of the stuff
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posted on
12/13/2001 6:03:43 PM PST
by
piasa
To: t-shirt
Clinton was having the CIA work on some secret biological attack plans without Congressional knowledge. Do you have some documentation for this?
To: rdavis84; All
Prevention of disclosure of a piece of the bigger picture This sounds more likely to me that prevention of "networking." But someone needs to start a list so we can look at it all at once to look for any big picture that may be there. Don't forget that the doctor in Chili who received the anthrax letter had an affiliation with St. Jude Hospital, as did the missing biologist, Don Wiley.
Then again, don't forget that all these deaths and disappearances may go on all the time among this population, but most of the time no one notices. What we REALLY need is a statistician!
To: rdavis84
There would need to be false trails laid. Forgot to say that I've had the same awful thought myself...
To: OwenKellogg
Good find! Now tell me your secret. ;-)
For the record:
Category: Obituaries
Classification: Funerals
BATES, Thomas
We are sad to announce the death of our brother, Retired US Air Force SSGT, Thomas Andrew Bates, 45, in Garmisch Germany. He was a civil service employee of the George C. Marshall, European Center for Security Studies, Garmisch-Partenkirchen, Germany. A full military funeral will be held at the Beaufort National Cemetery, 1601 Boundary St., Beaufort, Nov. 1, 12:00 Noon.
To: Grut
On no account use soy cheese. No creature's last thought should be "What the hell is this?"LOL!
They like jellybeans, too. But if you live-trap like I did, be warned - after eating a jellybean the size of his head, that mouse is gonna be wired.
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posted on
12/13/2001 6:23:10 PM PST
by
PLMerite
To: t-shirt
I have a very "bad feeling" on all this, very bad. We better pray, and pray hard.
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To: Nita Nupress; rubbertramp
"Prevention of disclosure of a piece of the bigger picture"
Because of our normal likely suspects who are "in business" around the World destabilizing nations use this concept religiously ----- "Compartmentalizing".
The players/tools who could provide information of very Key Aspects of an Operation are eliminated.
In this possible operation the list could get much longer than "The Clinton Death List" that covered Mena, BCCI, and the S&L scams.
None of the burned ex-players knew the whole picture, but each could have provided Key Aspects of it. McDougal, Foster, etc
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posted on
12/13/2001 6:59:28 PM PST
by
rdavis84
To: OwenKellogg
FYI above.
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posted on
12/13/2001 7:00:49 PM PST
by
rdavis84
To: t-shirt
I worked in biotech research for about 15 years before retiring to be a mom. You have one expert on immune function and another expert in dna sequencing, but the guy who can lead you to the bug is the one that worked in the animal research lab. The first two guys are about making a bug more potent or changing structure. The guy in the animal lab was working the bug itself.
Find out what he was working on and you have some information. Just my two cents. Also my husband has long held that what they will do is something like hoof and mouth, to devastate our economy. Hoof and mouth doesn't require scientific help, though, so I think it's something zoonotic. I think they're going to attack out agriculture, probably livestock, and somehow make it so that it also gets us in the process.
You need to find out about veterinary publications in scientific review journals in Australia, then search for the published work of the Nguyen guy. He had a speciality, what was it?
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posted on
12/13/2001 7:24:59 PM PST
by
MarMema
To: t-shirt
94
posted on
12/13/2001 7:28:40 PM PST
by
MarMema
To: t-shirt
Also, I don't think it is possible to wipe out the scientists in this country or any other. Here in Seattle alone we have the biotech capital of the country and there are plenty of people capable of handling a biological assault. What I do think is that they are trying to get information and/or kidnapping these people to work for them. And killing them, maybe, if they don't agree. Just my further two cents. This thread intrigues me.
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posted on
12/13/2001 7:31:31 PM PST
by
MarMema
To: t-shirt
now go here And read about Dr Marion Andrew, 5th one down, who seems to be working at Geelong, wasn't that where this microbiologist, Nguyen, died? And it seems to indicate that Geelong is about livestock industries and food safety.
Then go down to read about Dr Alex Hyatt, who has a larger paragraph and was awarded some medal for his work with a zoonotic virus, newly emerged to boot.
And I just went and looked for this stuff a few secs ago. My husband is a smart guy, did I mention he is a biochemist?
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posted on
12/13/2001 7:39:06 PM PST
by
MarMema
To: t-shirt
These new viruses are important, because some are causing threats to public health, livestock production and trade, and many may also pose a risk to wild animals where populations have already been reduced by environmental destruction or other factors," says Dr Wang.
From here hendra virus
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posted on
12/13/2001 7:43:07 PM PST
by
MarMema
To: MarMema
CSIRO Animal Health is a national centre of excellence in disease diagnosis, research and policy advice in animal health. It is one of twenty-three divisions of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO).
The Australian Animal Health Laboratory (AAHL) is the major facility of CSIRO Animal Health. Opened in 1985 at a cost of over A$150 million, AAHL is one of the most sophisticated laboratories in the world for the safe handling and containment of animal diseases.
Focus
CSIRO Animal Health plays a vital role in maintaining Australia's capability to quickly diagnose exotic (foreign) and emerging animal diseases.
This is achieved through ongoing research programs to develop the most sensitive, accurate and timely diagnostic tests, which are critical to the success of any eradication campaign in the event of a disease outbreak.
CSIRO Animal Health also undertakes research to develop new diagnostic tests, vaccines and therapeutics for endemic animal diseases of national importance. Major diseases of livestock, aquaculture animals, and wildlife, are studied.
To: harpseal
"Worth thinking about" bump...
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posted on
12/13/2001 7:50:31 PM PST
by
GOPJ
To: MarMema
Set Van Nguyen was a microbiologist with the facility for fifteen years. It was established in 1985, sixteen years ago. He does not appear among the 177 CSIRO Staff Profiles nor in a search of the CSIRO site nor in a google search in any but the lone article of his death. In fifteen years with the premier animal virus facility in the world his sole accomplishment was to die.
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