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NOW Abortionists: "Throw Joe Out on the Street!"
Snail Mail ^ | 12/11/2001 | Thomas More Society

Posted on 12/12/2001 3:48:59 PM PST by pray4liberty

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If you can help Joe in any way financially, please contribute what you can to the Thomas More Society, and pray for Joe and his family.
1 posted on 12/12/2001 3:48:59 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: pray4liberty
Whatever you think of abortion, the use of RICO to stifle dissent and debate is dangerous.

And maybe we should use it against liberal groups.

2 posted on 12/12/2001 3:53:51 PM PST by JAWs
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To: pray4liberty
On what grounds and evidence was this man convicted?

Where can we find a summary of the case?

3 posted on 12/12/2001 3:54:27 PM PST by sinkspur
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5 posted on 12/12/2001 4:02:43 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: pray4liberty
It appears that people who oppose abortion are running out of ways to do so peacefully. What do you suppose the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. would have resorted to had he and his supporters been persecuted in this way?
6 posted on 12/12/2001 4:03:05 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: JAWs
And maybe we should use it against liberal groups.

Wouldn't that be fun, I can't think of anyone who deserves it more.

7 posted on 12/12/2001 4:04:05 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: pray4liberty
Here's another doozy at Thomas More Center

This lady was prosecuted for carrying a sign showing the gory remains of an abortion under a statute banning display of signs having pictures of "murder . . . personal violence . . . or the commission of any crime." This gross 1st Amendment violation has been stayed by a Federal court.

8 posted on 12/12/2001 4:04:50 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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But abortion, or the results of it, is legally not "murder . . . personal violence . . . or the commission of any crime." So that is what I would use for her defense. This is happening because of those pro-abortion Clinton judges that are stacking the deck. Also, people don't want to see the truth.
9 posted on 12/12/2001 4:11:19 PM PST by pray4liberty
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"This lady was prosecuted for carrying a sign showing the gory remains of an abortion under a statute banning display of signs having pictures of "murder . . . personal violence . . . or the commission of any crime." This gross 1st Amendment violation has been stayed by a Federal court"

Of course, if it had been a gay porn video then it would have been "protected speech".

10 posted on 12/12/2001 4:15:07 PM PST by Marduk
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To: pray4liberty
"But abortion, or the results of it, is legally not "murder . . . personal violence . . . or the commission of any crime." So that is what I would use for her defense. This is happening because of those pro-abortion Clinton judges that are stacking the deck. Also, people don't want to see the truth. "

Right on! We are told that abortion isn't murder or violence. It is not a crime. Then how can one suppress a picture of an aborted fetus on the grounds that shows the results of "violence" or a "crime"????

Indeed the Liberals are just twisting the law to suit their purposes.

Soon expressing an opposition to abortion will be a "hate crime". The EU is about to make "racism" a crime. Then they'll probably make "sexism" a crime. Then they'll put anti-abortionists in jail because they are "sexist".

11 posted on 12/12/2001 4:18:05 PM PST by Marduk
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To: Marduk
Indeed the Liberals are just twisting the law to suit their purposes.

They always have, and they always will. Hopefully a case like this will bring things to a head and make up some minds about what abortion is and what it is not. The truth, however, would be glaring at them in the face. I wish I could sit on that jury.

The only thing the lib lawyers could come up with is "your eyes aren't seeing what you think they're seeing" b.s. which, hopefully, will make a decent jury mad.

12 posted on 12/12/2001 4:27:29 PM PST by pray4liberty
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"Hopefully a case like this will bring things to a head and make up some minds about what abortion is and what it is not."

It won't. The press is controlled by liberals. So the press won't report on the legal cointradiction involved. As a result Joe Six Pack won't know. As a result it won't come to a head.

13 posted on 12/12/2001 4:32:47 PM PST by Marduk
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To: pray4liberty
Apparently the one choice they are not in favor of is the choice to speak out against abortion.
14 posted on 12/12/2001 4:41:27 PM PST by Stefan Stackhouse
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To: Marduk
Whoa. It isn't judges at fault in the one I cited. The Federal court did the right thing there. It's an idiotic legislature. (I seem to have caused some confusion by introducing a second topic. Sorry!)
15 posted on 12/12/2001 4:44:07 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: pray4liberty
I am sympathetic with Mr. Scheidler, but the chances of the Supreme Court taking the case after the Appeals Court turned it down are very slim.
16 posted on 12/12/2001 4:48:11 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
What do you suppose the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. would have resorted to had he and his supporters been persecuted in this way?

My guess is if Rev. King were alive today, in his role as a Christian minister, he'd stage a sit-in and be hauled off in chains with the rest of us, after being accused of being a turncoat.

Funny how you never hear about those separation of church and state arguments from the libs when it comes to Rev. King. In fact they don't even refer to him as a Reverend anymore, just Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. .. anybody else notice that, or is it just me?

17 posted on 12/12/2001 5:13:12 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: sinkspur
I am sympathetic with Mr. Scheidler, but the chances of the Supreme Court taking the case after the Appeals Court turned it down are very slim.

Maybe, but we can help him anyway, if not financially, then through powerful prayers. This is David vs. Goliath, and God can do things men can't.

18 posted on 12/12/2001 5:16:36 PM PST by pray4liberty
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
It appears that people who oppose abortion are running out of ways to do so peacefully. What do you suppose the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. would have resorted to had he and his supporters been persecuted in this way?

Give me a break. Look at the history of social reform and note the thousands of bombings and riots and injuries and arrests and murders (especially during the civil rights movement). Compare that to the pro-life movement, where only seven lives have been lost in 30 years, with only a tiny fraction of bombings and arsons and virtually no riots. To suggest that the pro-life movement has resorted to violence is preposterous. There were more people killed during a few days of rioting in the Rodney King matter in Los Angeles than have been killed in the entire history of the pro-life movement -- not only in this country, but worldwide.

19 posted on 12/12/2001 5:23:22 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: *Abortion_list; *Catholic_list; *Christian_list
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20 posted on 12/12/2001 5:25:24 PM PST by JMJ333
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