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RED AND BLUE RECONSIDERED (Johnny Walker a "Right Wing Zealot??")
"The Daily Dish" ^ | 11 December 01 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 12/11/2001 4:29:09 PM PST by MoJo2001

One email has really got me thinking. The best point of those who disagree with my earlier post on Walker/Spann is that Walker wasn't/isn't really a lefty. He's actually a right-wing religious zealot. Here's the case: "Maybe I missed something, but I am not sure how a religious fundamentalist and zealot like John Walker is an embodiment of the American Hating Left. He is a right wing religious nut just like the guy arrested here in Cincinnati last week for sending fake anthrax to abortion clinics. While you may be correct that his permissive parents and his multicultural context may have produced him (sounds like something some right wing nut case would say about homosexuality, right Andrew?), what it produced was a right wing Islamic religious nut who hates the West and America for its decadence (which he enjoyed and benefited from) and sin, just like his brothers on the right wing Christian extreme (like maybe Tim McVeigh, who was a Catholic to boot?). Let's at least be honest that Walker represents some of the worst of American permissiveness and multiculturalism, while being the embodiment of right wing religious fanaticism. I think we all get caught on this one." This strikes me as pretty smart. What it misses, though, is that Walker actually rebelled against Catholicism for being too strict when he was younger. I think he was attracted to Islam as much by its exoticism as by its strictures. I think we have a classic case of being brought up with really permissive parents in a really permissive culture. You want to rebel, but your authority figures approve of 'rebellion' so you have to find some sort of anti-liberal rebellion. Islam fits the bill perfectly. Hip-hop was a mite too predictable and you can imagine his parents almost approving. The extremism with which he pursued his rebellion is probably inexplicable out of psychoanalysis. But the link between his chosen lifestyle and the culture in which he was born is still valid, I think. - 12/11/2001 07:25:31 PM


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: andrewsullivan; jihadjohnny
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To: ahmedtousay1
You sure are becoming increasingly more dumb in your responses--how much dirt do you want on the Rev. Moon???

I will care about dirt on Rev. Moon as soon as you show me recent articles he has penned in the Washington Times. The newspaper is extremely credible. If you have examples of its incredulity besides the dubious and stupid discussion of its owner -- which is no indication of its credibility -- then present your evidence.

And your posts started out as ridiculously dumb, so you have no room to grow more so.

61 posted on 12/12/2001 5:52:51 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Dr. Octagon
How much is cherry pie at McDonalds?

I have a naughty answer to that. I will hold my tongue to maintain forum decorum. ;^)

62 posted on 12/12/2001 5:54:03 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: ahmedtousay1; Lazamataz
You dont know Lazamataz's style apparently. Fighting with Laz is like a blackhole...
63 posted on 12/12/2001 5:54:31 PM PST by smith288
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To: smith288
You dont know Lazamataz's style apparently. Fighting with Laz is like a blackhole...

Shush, you! ;^)

64 posted on 12/12/2001 5:55:06 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
"Is there a difference?"

No, not really, I am just trying to engage him in his own reality and draw out the core neurosis for resolution. Perfessers have to do this as well as students, dontcha know. LOLOLOL (Maniacal laughter)

regards

65 posted on 12/12/2001 5:56:28 PM PST by okiedust
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To: Lazamataz
Wanna make sumpin of it???
66 posted on 12/12/2001 5:58:02 PM PST by smith288
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To: Lazamataz
Hey...be nice. Be normal.
67 posted on 12/12/2001 6:02:27 PM PST by Neets
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To: OneidaM
Hey...be nice. Be normal.

Being nice is abnormal.

68 posted on 12/12/2001 6:08:51 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: ahmedtousay1
All your sparks are belong to us, fizzlepoof.
69 posted on 12/12/2001 6:11:24 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: smith288
Wanna make sumpin of it???

Sure, lets make a sumpin. Is that anything like latkes? I like latkes.

70 posted on 12/12/2001 6:12:08 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: BunnySlippers
Once a Catholic always a Catholic

By this logic Martin Luther and John Calvin can be described as Catholics. I don't think so!!

71 posted on 12/12/2001 6:23:08 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lazamataz
I like the wizard of oz...I like the scarecrow....
Name the movie.
72 posted on 12/12/2001 6:42:28 PM PST by smith288
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To: smith288
Arsenic and Old Lace.
73 posted on 12/12/2001 6:53:28 PM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: Lazamataz
And doing an incredibly poor job of it, mate.

Eldar Pompov
Topeka, KS
74 posted on 12/12/2001 7:01:06 PM PST by ahmedtousay1
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To: Lazamataz
Oh man...you are a barrel of monkeys...Fun Fun Fun

The Washington Times credible???

LOL
75 posted on 12/12/2001 7:03:08 PM PST by ahmedtousay1
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To: BunnySlippers
You put your soul in the hands of 'Catholics for Choice?'

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

76 posted on 12/12/2001 7:37:20 PM PST by Petronski
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To: WileyCoyote22
I know that. I was merely wondering how it is this guy can be considered a Right Wing Zealot. As for my head in my butt, well that's quite a stretch. LOL!
77 posted on 12/12/2001 7:43:34 PM PST by MoJo2001
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To: MoJo2001
It's easy to prove this allegation false. All you have to do is notice that it took the left between 10-14 days to come up with it. They tried Plan A first: To embrace him as one of their own (cf. all the San Francisco media fawning over him). Only when that utterly and completely blew up in their face did they gin up Plan B: That he's actually that most convenient of liberal bugaboos: The Right-Wing Extremist.

The best part is that won't work any better than Plan A, except at convincing the Marin Country crowd of their own self-righteousness. And even that in the end just makes them look even more sinister to everyone else in the country.

79 posted on 12/12/2001 8:33:00 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Lazamataz
... no kidding
80 posted on 12/12/2001 8:35:19 PM PST by RKBA_Champ
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