Orwell's 1984: The Future Is Here

INSIGHT magazine ^ | December 7, 2001 | David Goodman

[cascademountaineer]

Very interesting article. Thanks for the post.

[independentmind]

And the Fabian Society once more has catapulted itself into the picture because, upon the death of Sonia Orwell, rights to George's estate fell under control of — the Fabian Society. According to representatives of HarperCollins, the Fabians will be in control of the 1984 copyright and name through the year 2025 and will do their best to block unauthorized in-vestigative research about Orwell's antisocialist works.

An odd twist of fate.

[Perseverando]

Bump!

[DrDavid]

The question still seems to be unanswered. Did Orwell prefer socialism/communism to a capitalistic society? Was 1984 suppose to be a happy comforting book for Socialists like Huxley's A Brave New World? Or was it a warning and/or recipe for his socialist friends?

Although watching socialists like Hillary Clinton, who does not fear a society like 1984. They do not fear it, because they know they will be the slave-owners of their socialist utopia.

I think these 2 books do more to illustrate the evils of socialism/communism than anything else. That we see some aspects of 1984 appearing in our lives is scary. For example hate crimes are thought crimes.

This is why we as conservatives must keep fighting against socialism to protect our freedoms in our great country...

[Tymesup]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

It depends what the meaning of "is" is - Clinton

You can lie and be an honest man - Rather

We burned the house down to save the children - Reno

There was an explosion in the center wing fuel tank - NTSB

The president did not assault Mrs. Broadrick - Kendall

I cannot recall - Mrs. Clinton

[borntodiefree]

I believe that we would have to "assume" that Orwell was displaying his disenchantment with the socialist/facist system with the combination of 1984 and "Animal Farm".

I'm actually not sure which book I appreciated more as far as concept of the negative aspects of where this nation and Eurasia are going as portrayed between the two.

By the way, if you haven't read "Animal Farm", I HIGHLY recommend it, especially good for kids to understand as well.

[DrDavid]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

The wonders of Newspeak.

Is there a difference between Orwell's Newspeak and network news-speak?

[DrDavid]

I've read Animal Farm at least a couple times. As you said it is an excellent book. However, unlike 1984, Animal Farm is history not a vision of a future socialist utopia.

[UCANSEE2]

How dare you question your government or use such profane terms without permission.

Agents will be at your door soon to provide for your safety(arrest).

[DrDavid]

Don't you mean to make sure I'm safetly dead?

[machman]

Don't you mean to make sure I'm safetly dead?

No more harm will come your way.

You can't be any safer than dead, now can you??? ;^)

[George Smiley]

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

You forgot

Hillary!® is Beautiful

[DrDavid]

Hillary!® is Beautiful

If I remember correctly in Newspeak, things like good, true, beautiful etc. become "Big Brother". So in Newspeak this would be translated as "Hillary!® is Big Brother".

[Tymesup]

In 1984, they chanted B-B (for Big Brother). During the Clinton years, the chant was Bubba.

[UCANSEE2]

With the kind of agents this would imply, the words Safety,arrest, and dead are all synonyms!

[George Smiley]

Sometimes she unstraps it and is Big Sister instead.

[AAABEST]

Orwell was as profound and prolific as the "Patriot Act" is a big piece of s**t.

Notice the leftists are railing over detaining illegal criminal aliens and the military tribunals (both of which are good medicine) yet they have not said a word about the "Patriot Act", I wonder why?

Wait until the wrong administration gets a hold of this POS that was voted on by 99 United States Senators. I've given much support to this administration, but this bit of absurdity may cause me to stay home in 2004. I didn't sign up for this crap.

[cascademountaineer]

Notice the leftists are railing over detaining illegal criminal aliens and the military tribunals (both of which are good medicine) yet they have not said a word about the "Patriot Act", I wonder why?

Thats the irony in all this.

The Neo-Socialists wanted big Gvt. for years. But now that it isnt going their way their complaining.

It looks like the chickens have come home to roost for the left. They just dont realize it.