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Bin Laden 'amused' at duped hijackers who died
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 11/12/01 | Norman Kempster in Washington

Posted on 12/10/2001 8:01:06 AM PST by dead

A seized video shows Osama bin Laden "amused" that some of the terrorists in the September 11 attacks thought they were merely hijackers and did not realise they were going to die, says a United States official.

The Bush Administration is yet to decide whether to release the 40-minute video, which it says proves bin Laden had prior knowledge of the attacks on the US. But the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said it showed the Saudi-born terrorist at a dinner last month, apparently "amused by the fact that some of these people who were martyred thought they were just taking part in a hijacking".

This supports an FBI theory that up to a dozen of the 19 men involved in the terrorist operation were footsoldiers, or "muscle", used to quell any opposition from crew and passengers on the hijacked planes, and did not know it was a suicide mission. The videotape was found in a house in Jalalabad, in eastern Afghanistan. Officials said it showed bin Laden in an apparently private conversation with a Muslim cleric.

One FBI official said the prayers found at the crash sites appeared to exhort the foot soldiers to be strong in prison, unlike the instructions found in the luggage of the ringleader, Mohammad Atta, which made it clear he believed he was going to paradise.

This would follow the al-Qaeda manual: "The operation members should not all be told about the operation until shortly before executing it in order to avoid leaking of its news."

The US Vice-President, Dick Cheney, who has seen parts of the tape, said bin Laden displayed intimate knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, leaving "no doubt about his responsibility".

Mr Cheney, the Deputy Defence Secretary, Paul Wolfowitz, and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, General Richard Myers, all confirmed the existence of the tape.

Asked about releasing the tape, Mr Cheney said: "We have not been eager to give the guy any extra television time than he could obtain for himself. But I think we'd probably rely on the experts as to whether or not it'd be a good idea for us to release it." Another hitch was protecting the intelligence "sources and methods" used to obtain it.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911hijackers; binladen
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Bin Laden must be slowly coming to realize that he himself was one of the duped martyrs who would die as a result of those hijackings.

We can send this video to “Afghanistan’s Funnies Home Videos” right after we blow him up.

1 posted on 12/10/2001 8:01:06 AM PST by dead
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To: dead
For some reason this reminds me of the films the Nazis made of themselves.
2 posted on 12/10/2001 8:07:37 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: freedomlover
Bin got one chance to dupe his supporters. He shouldn't get a second.

"Hey Al-Jabir-Al-Hajib-Al-Hudunit we got a little hijacking job for you." "Noo, not me Sahib."

It shows that Bin had trouble finding enough young men who crave death. These people are full of hyperbole and bluster.

3 posted on 12/10/2001 8:13:16 AM PST by kinghorse
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To: dead
If they were "duped" do they still qualify for the virgins?
4 posted on 12/10/2001 8:17:52 AM PST by hattend
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To: hattend
"If they were "duped" do they still qualify for the virgins?"

Only the BIG FAT UGLY ones!

5 posted on 12/10/2001 8:24:43 AM PST by DrJasper
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To: dead
thanks for the post. i would suggest that this video would have the effect of breaking up some cells within the al-qaeda network. if you are in a cell, and suspect that you will live after your attack, wouldn't this make you think twice? there will still be suicide bombers willing to do their 'mission from allah', but i suspect the teamwork and comraderie may have just taken a big hit within the al-qaeda network ranks.
6 posted on 12/10/2001 8:26:19 AM PST by mlocher
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To: dead
The Bush Administration is yet to decide whether to release the 40-minute video, which it says proves bin Laden had prior knowledge of the attacks on the US.

"We have this wonderful proof, which, if only you could see it, would convince you we are right."

RIIIGHT...!

This stinks on ice.

7 posted on 12/10/2001 8:26:32 AM PST by Grut
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To: dead
So he sent the unknowing hijackers "sliding down the razor-blade of life" , as I recall from a scene from the movie "The Moors"(?) with Sidney Poitier.
8 posted on 12/10/2001 9:00:33 AM PST by WL-law
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To: dead
The fact that they didn't know that they were doomed to die opens up a very huge can of worms. Some of the questions that arise are as follows.

1, Are they martyrs or murder victims?

2, If they were lied to about the hijackings, what else were they lied to about?

3,If the moslems lie to you about murdering you while calling it martyrdom, what other lies have they told you about allah and paradise?

4, since Islam readily supports lieing and is based on lies, how can anyone believe any of it?

5, Since God is holy and Islam is not, how can it be of God?

9 posted on 12/10/2001 9:04:22 AM PST by dglang
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To: dead
Releasing of this video should really cause any remaining sleeper terrorists to want to blow themselves up, too, especially if they see bin Laden laughing at their gullibility.
10 posted on 12/10/2001 9:10:21 AM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: Grut
"We have this wonderful proof, which, if only you could see it, would convince you we are right."

While such statements from government officials should not necessarily be accepted at face value, it is pretty clear that showing a video tape that was recorded under circumstances where the person recording it could almost certainly be traced and identified based on the angle that it was taken from and the people nearby, would compromise the "sources and methods" used to obtain it.

11 posted on 12/10/2001 9:10:47 AM PST by The Electrician
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To: dead
How can you fly a plane into a building and NOT know it was a suicide mission? Did they really think they could survive something like that?
12 posted on 12/10/2001 9:11:49 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: dead
This guy is the worse scum I have seen in my life. I think the US should insist this film be shown in all radical muslim countries so that the populace knows what contempt he held them in, and how it amused him that their son's did not know they were going to die. What does this say, that Allah likes a good joke? Does Allah like his devotees to be duped into situations they don't understand? Does he have no more love for his own worshippers than he does for the infidel? Ben Ladin seems to think so, which begs the question if this is his idea of the god he serves why does he think he will be treated any differently from the rest?

Death is too good for Ben Ladin unless he can be killed several times.

13 posted on 12/10/2001 9:13:18 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Grut
"We have this wonderful proof, which, if only you could see it, would convince you we are right."

RIIIGHT...!

This stinks on ice.

The release of the tape should come soon and quell that suspicion. This isn't a replay of Bill Clinton and the Terrorist Aspirin Factory.

14 posted on 12/10/2001 9:20:02 AM PST by JoeSchem
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To: Lizavetta
What? It could easily have been unknown to a few They obviously didn't know that the plane was going to be intentionally crashed. They thought it was simply a hijacking, just like everyone else.
15 posted on 12/10/2001 9:22:53 AM PST by cactmh
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To: Grut
Stinks, is right.
16 posted on 12/10/2001 9:30:07 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Grut
DITTO
Let's go to the tapes. We CAN stand the truth!
17 posted on 12/10/2001 9:35:23 AM PST by Marianne
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To: dead
I'll bet his OWN fate won't seem quite so amusing!
18 posted on 12/10/2001 9:39:48 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Destructor
How should bin Laden himself go out?
19 posted on 12/10/2001 10:03:45 AM PST by Dr. Octagon
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To: DrJasper
Only the BIG FAT UGLY ones!

When I die, I hope I go to hell, because that's where the best broads are! I suppose that rules out martyrdom for me.

20 posted on 12/10/2001 12:07:12 PM PST by Canuck1
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