Church ought not to oppose condoms (Whine and cheese alert)

Mpls (red)Star Tribune ^ | 12/9/01 | Joe Selvaggio

[pcl]

Grow up

[pcl]

Why did you flag me?

I don't no what I was thinking. Clearly flaging you was a mistake.

[pcl]

Is it because your pro-abortion position uses the fact of pedophile priests to JUSTIFY killing the pre-born? Is it because you permit no argument to the statement you make that NO ONE HAS A SOUL UNTIL AFTER THE FIRST BREATH, a statement you have made many times?

You don't get it do you?

I said I was done arguing with you 15 percenters. Why do you all keeping trying to drag me back into your cesspool?

[Judith Anne]

When YOU flag ME, expect a response.

[Judith Anne]

Onan, as I recall from my reading of the Bible, was told by God to marry his dead brother's sister, and thus give her a child. He refused, spilling his seed on the ground instead. His sin, again if I recall correctly, was disobedience to God's command, not masturbation.

I don't recall that masturbation was ever mentioned.

[Judith Anne]

Onan, as I recall from my reading of the Bible, was told by God to marry his dead brother's wife, and thus give her a child. He refused, spilling his seed on the ground instead. His sin, again if I recall correctly, was disobedience to God's command, not masturbation.

I don't recall that masturbation was ever mentioned.

[Judith Anne]

I'm sorry that I posted twice--in the first post I used the word "sister" instead of "wife."

Anyway, that's how I recall the story.

[pcl]

It must be ok for women to masturbate since they spill no seed. OTOH, menstruation must be a sin since it disposes of an unused seed.

[Judith Anne]

I can't find it mentioned in the Bible at all, with the exception of the story I just relayed, and it wasn't about women. Maybe you can, since you seem to have an interest in it.

[pcl]

As you know, the Bible is only a small part of the Catholic Church doctrine of faith. The subject of masturbation is not addressed in the bible. Notwithstanding that, the Catholic Church does condem masturbation as a mortal sin.

... masturbation is a mortal sin because it negates the whole purpose of one of our most sacred powers, the power to fashion family and procreate human life. www.catholic-pages.com

[pcl]

BTW, here is an interesting thread about the life of a Fundamentalist Catholic

[Judith Anne]

Robert Hanssen was NO MORE OF A FUNDAMENTALIST CATHOLIC than he was a faithful husband, honorable government employee, or honest, decent human being.

Is Robert Hanssen a person YOU think of as a fundamentalist Catholic? Or are you trying to start an argument with me, by hinting that all fundamentalist Catholics are similar to Robert Hanssen?

Are you doing that to insult me? My Catholic faith is important to me. Are you trying to denigrate it? What is the meaning of that post of yours, which directs me to look at Robert Hanssen's disgusting life as that of a fundamentalist Catholic?

[pcl]

What is the meaning of that post of yours, which directs me to look at Robert Hanssen's disgusting life as that of a fundamentalist Catholic?

Just thought you would be interested interested in the recreational activites he undertook when not spying. I would think that the attempted conversion of strippers would at least give him some brownie points with the Catholics.

[Judith Anne]

"Just thought you would be interested interested in the recreational activites he undertook when not spying"

Why would you think that?

[pcl]

I see you are calling your third grade playground buddies to come play. Let's see if you can turn this thread into an immature giggle fest as you have so many others.