[Torie]

There is no reasoning with these people. Some seem to think that because Congress doesn't do their bidding, they shouldn't get paid. Others think Congress members shouldn't make much more than they do. None worry that the smart well educated types we want in Congress won't take low pay compared to what they can make elsewhere, particularly if they have kids to educate, unless they are power mad or independently wealthy or humanities professors. And few manage to actually focus on and debate the relevant points to consider, or indeed focus at all. JMO.

[Economist_MA]

There is no reasoning with these people

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[cva66snipe]

There is no reasoning with these people. Some seem to think that because Congress doesn't do their bidding, they shouldn't get paid. Others think Congress members shouldn't make much more than they do. None worry that the smart well educated types we want in Congress won't take low pay compared to what they can make elsewhere, particularly if they have kids to educate, unless they are power mad or independently wealthy or humanities professors. And few manage to actually focus on and debate the relevant points to consider, or indeed focus at all. JMO.

Yep you're right and every soldier and sailor not making what they deserve should just go home as well to better paying civilian jobs. But why are the soldiers and military there? They are there for duty to country just as it was intended for public office to be. But public office has become a fat cat social club for rear covering thieves to draw retirement. Not all mind you but many.

When it comes to the point that staying in office rather than the constitutional goal of serving the people becomes their objective then it's time for them to leave. When a United States Senator says before a trial there is no way a criminal will be convicted then votes him not guilty in same trial it's time for him to leave office. These the beloved darlings of the party is what sickens persons like myself and worse the very ones who bless them and excuse their tossing aside of their oath.

Till the United States Congress behaves and operates its branch in a constitutional manner it deserves nothing as it is robbing us daily of what is ours to have. They robbed us of the dignity of the office of POTUS. Yes Bill Clinton did the wrong but who Torie upheld that behavior by vote and just down right SOLD OUT for political gain over and above the law? It was indeed congress the house and senate of both parties. Tracicant is a fringe loon but he was right about impeachment and the leadership of the GOP was the DEMs useful IDIOTS!!! No felony convictions for treason thank them all!