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Follow Up: Sanity in France - FRENCH DOCTORS TO STRIKE OVER RULING ON RIGHT NOT TO BE BORN
EWTN.com ^ | 12-7-01

Posted on 12/07/2001 1:41:14 PM PST by Notwithstanding

PARIS, Dec 7, 01 (LSN.ca/CWNews.com) - Top prenatal doctors in France pledged to strike due to a decision by the country's top court last week, which held that when doctors fail to detect deformities in unborn disabled children and do not suggest abortion to their parents, the doctors can be held liable.

In a letter to the daily Le Monde, 11 specialists at eight hospitals said that from January 1 they would refuse to carry out any ultrasounds and other tests that can show whether an unborn child has any abnormalities. Reuters reports that the doctors hoped many others would join them and pledged to continue the strike until the law was altered.


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5:39 PM 12/7/2001 EWTN News Story

7-Dec-2001 -- EWTN News Brief

FRENCH DOCTORS TO STRIKE OVER RULING ON RIGHT NOT TO BE BORN

PARIS, Dec 7, 01 (LSN.ca/CWNews.com) - Top prenatal doctors in France pledged to strike due to a decision by the country's top court last week, which held that when doctors fail to detect deformities in unborn disabled children and do not suggest abortion to their parents, the doctors can be held liable.

In a letter to the daily Le Monde, 11 specialists at eight hospitals said that from January 1 they would refuse to carry out any ultrasounds and other tests that can show whether an unborn child has any abnormalities. Reuters reports that the doctors hoped many others would join them and pledged to continue the strike until the law was altered.

"(The ruling) encourages doctors to worry about their own protection rather than that of their patient," said the letter. "It is impossible for us now to perform our work, which moreover will become uninsurable very soon." The decision last week reaffirmed a decision of the court made earlier this year. At the time doctors said the fear of being sued for a misdiagnosis would encourage them to recommend abortions at the smallest hint of a disability. "The ruling means that the handicapped have no place in our society," said Yves Richard, a lawyer representing the medical profession. "There is a real risk of this starting a process that ends with the search for the perfect child."

Reuters reports that Jean-Francois Mattei, a doctor and Liberal member of parliament, has drawn up a bill to amend the law making it impossible to seek compensation for having been born. Disability groups and the national Ethics Committee have criticized the court's decision.

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1 posted on 12/07/2001 1:41:14 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: *Pro_life; *Abortion_list; *Christian_list; *Catholic_list; *Religion; Antoninus; patent; JMJ333...
LIFE sanity bump
2 posted on 12/07/2001 1:42:59 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
And welcome to the liberals next logical extension to infanticide.

"Dam that doctor, he should have TOLD me to MURDER my child." </sarcasam off>

3 posted on 12/07/2001 1:44:01 PM PST by ICE-FLYER
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To: Notwithstanding
Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

Thrown down the Court that made such an evil decision!

4 posted on 12/07/2001 1:44:13 PM PST by bvw
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To: ICE-FLYER
We are blessed to have pro-life obstetrician. Normally her OBs always harassed my wife for refusing to have prenatal tests done to see if the baby has this or that disease. But this OB told her something like this: there some tests I have to offer you but since the only 'solution' to any diseases these tests might find is abortion, I strongly recommend against the tests." My wife wanted to hug the guy.
5 posted on 12/07/2001 1:48:50 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
We have a doctor like that. Such a joy comparatively. We had her for our first, then we moved and found out how bad it can really be. We are now back.
6 posted on 12/07/2001 2:01:27 PM PST by patent
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"since the only 'solution' to any diseases these tests might find is abortion"

Not true. Your wife may want to hug him, but not for his knowledge of prenatal therapeutics. Several serious disorders can be partially or totally cured by intrauterine interventions.

7 posted on 12/07/2001 2:02:03 PM PST by US admirer
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You could not possibly know the tests nor the diseases to which I refer. The tests in question do not involve diseases for which any prenatal intervention would be helpful. Thanks for thinking about my wife and child though. Glad to see you have our bests interests at heart. Hope you can see that you sort of jumped the gun in your rush to judge the doctor.
8 posted on 12/07/2001 2:06:24 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
Point taken.
9 posted on 12/07/2001 2:20:18 PM PST by US admirer
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To: Notwithstanding
when doctors fail to detect deformities in unborn disabled children and do not suggest abortion to their parents, the doctors can be held liable.

So by this logic if one is deformed is someway you have no right to live

What if a deformities occurs after birth?

If a pre-born child has no arm and there for deformed and therefore the doctors can be held liable if he does not suggest abortion; Then if a child loses an arm after birth the doctors can be held liable if he does not suggest killing the child?

What the warranty period on a child how long do you have the right to return (kill) them if they become defective

10 posted on 12/07/2001 2:24:34 PM PST by tophat9000
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So by this logic if one is deformed is someway you have no right to liv

Uh, you don't even have to be deformed to be denied this right..

11 posted on 12/07/2001 2:30:38 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Notwithstanding
We are blessed to have pro-life obstetrician. Normally her OBs always harassed my wife for refusing to have prenatal tests done to see if the baby has this or that disease. But this OB told her something like this: there some tests I have to offer you but since the only 'solution' to any diseases these tests might find is abortion, I strongly recommend against the tests." My wife wanted to hug the guy.

I would like to hug him too. And I don't hug guys! :)

That is a gutsy move in todays hyperpolitically correct climate of "Kill as many as we can for NOW". I am no longer shocked at these people who want abortion as much as possible. I just get more and more excited at the constant turning of opinion against it. I am thrilled to see the crisis pregnancy centers flourishing. I love to hear, more and more, the stories such as the one you told me here. And my personal joy is one that I had a small part in here in the Police state of New York. At the hospital I was told by the nurse that "State Law requires you to submit for a social security number for your child before you leave." I said "Nope. Prove it, bring me a copy and I will oblige you, until then have a wheel chair ready as my wife and I and our child will be leaving." Two more staffers came and demanded I do so. I told them they had very little time to produce proof before I called law enforcement about a wrongful imprisionment by way of invented legislation.

We went home to a nice coming home party. Oh, and the paper work was sent in, at my leisure. I wanted to not have numbers at all, but I am not up for that fight yet. However, when I do eventually run for congress, it will be my fight.

12 posted on 12/07/2001 4:04:17 PM PST by ICE-FLYER
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Thanks. I'm glad they have threatened to strike. I hope the French have a spiritual revival--and I hope for one here too because we are next. Hospitals are already trying to use abortion for spina bifida, and cystic fibrosis...money money money!

We had better take our cue from Greg Cunningham and go on offense istead of residing on defense.

13 posted on 12/07/2001 4:49:08 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: Notwithstanding
My kids were also delivered by a pro-life physician. He goes so far as to have the patient sign a paper on the first visit which states you understand that he does not order those tests which screen for fetal abnormalities and if you want them you understand you can find another doctor. It's so much better knowing the first hands on your innocent child are not the same hands that would have gladly destroyed it's life.
14 posted on 12/07/2001 4:59:03 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN - and can I hear AMEN even once more!
15 posted on 12/07/2001 5:02:05 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: ICE-FLYER
I am no longer shocked at these people who want abortion as much as possible.

A doctor who does abortions encourages abortion over birth because it's a much easier way for him/her to make money quickly. Less chance of being sued too and it takes no competence at all. It's all about money, and some enjoy the death part.

16 posted on 12/07/2001 5:05:16 PM PST by FITZ
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Most abortionists are losers. The good guys realize they do not need to dirty their hands and names with such ugly, vile work. By and large it is the losers - people who can't make a legitimate go of it in the medical profession - are the ones who do the nasty deed. Or the people who just want the money. Abortionists get rich. Mostly cash business (cash leaves no shameful trail) and not many mom's want to schedule follow up appointments with the (mostly) men who knifed their baby for money.

It is all about knifing babies for cash.

17 posted on 12/07/2001 5:19:06 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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But this OB told her something like this: there some tests I have to offer you but since the only 'solution' to any diseases these tests might find is abortion, I strongly recommend against the tests." My wife wanted to hug the guy.

You're fortunate. Pro-life OB's are few and far between. When my wife told her nurse that she didn't want an amnio because we would be happy with whatever we got, the nurse turned her back to us, shed a tear, and turned back around after she collected herself. Apparently, the "consumers" are driving this as much as the doctors.

18 posted on 12/07/2001 5:23:56 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: tophat9000
What the warranty period on a child how long do you have the right to return (kill) them if they become defective

Singer, the Princeton "bioethicist," gives parents up to a month. Or maybe it's a year?

If the parent doesn't want the baby the baby would be put to death. I mean the "potential life" would be put to death.

19 posted on 12/07/2001 5:27:16 PM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: ICE-FLYER
You don't have to get an SSN for your child, but if you don't you can't claim her on your 1040; seat belt laws work the same way, if a state doesn't have them, the state loses federal highway funding; the government coerces in lieu of legislating when the issues are in conflict with civil-rights.
20 posted on 12/07/2001 5:33:48 PM PST by Old Professer
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