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I need 299 more people to join me. Let's push the donations over the top.
My own thoughts... | 12/05/01 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 12/05/2001 12:37:55 PM PST by DoughtyOne

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To: DoughtyOne
Hey, DoughtyOne, is it too late to send a check to JimRob for 40 bucks? If it is let me know, otherwise the check is in the snail mail! Long live Free Republic! Merry Christmas to the Robinsons and all the freepers who keep this board running!

Walkin Man

121 posted on 12/06/2001 9:34:37 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Grampa Dave
It sure feels good to support this site!! Thanks Grandpa Dave for the reminde. I have been meaning to donate all week and finally got around to it today!
122 posted on 12/06/2001 9:40:47 AM PST by Iam4theRepublic
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To: Iam4theRepublic
It does feel good doesn't it! Thanks for your donation!
123 posted on 12/06/2001 9:46:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Walkin Man
It's never too late bud. Thanks.
124 posted on 12/06/2001 9:56:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: d14truth
"I vote for RAISING the FR annual budget to $1,000,000! You got both of these covered, right, Mo1? Under Laz's 'million FReeper math'

Ummm Yea ... ummm The check is in the mail ..lol

125 posted on 12/06/2001 11:31:46 AM PST by Mo1
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To: What about Bob?; Jim Robinson; John Robinson
Detailed accounting of funds per JJ's 'Rainbow Coalition' - {;~)--

Jim Rob = $80,000
John Rob = $80,000
Overhead @ 100% = $160,000

Total $320,000

Would be cheap for Silicon Valley at twice the price.

Nothing is required of you, so only contribute what you feel the site is worth to you. If nothing is a 'fair' amount, so be it -- no harm done. God bless.

126 posted on 12/06/2001 12:41:58 PM PST by d14truth
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To: d14truth; WIMom; Jim Robinson; John Robinson; All
Jim Rob = $80,000, John Rob = $80,000

At straight time for 2000 hours and time and a half for 1000 hours and double time for 1000 hours each.(About $17.78/hour base pay.

Must be a 'labor of love' -- For which we all are deeply in your debt - Too bad so many are FReeploaders'.

(By the way, as a disclaimer, I have no idea what Jim and John get by on, I'm just a fellow Californian with wife, kids, mortgage, and pets, and the usual bills from Sacramento.)

This site is worth at least twice as much as any cable company, and 5 times as much as any 'fishwrap'.

127 posted on 12/06/2001 12:55:10 PM PST by d14truth
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To: d14truth; What about Bob?; Jim Robinson
I followed this back a few messages.

In defense of Bob, he may believe the site is worth a million bucks. It is his prerogative (it is his money) if he chooses to contribute only if certain conditions are met. Sounds fine to me.

Having said that, I can see this issue is probably a direct result of Bob's choice of confrontational words.

Bob, if you do wish to contribute, and you do wish to see disclosure, you could make a conditional pledge, dollars for books, so to speak. However, I am certain you would catch flak for making such a statement on the forum; I'd suggest private mail to Jim, a saintly patience and temper, and a link to my suggestion here.

If a significant number of people made such conditional pledges, Jim may re-evaluate his disclosure position. Or he may not, because that is Jim's prerogative (it is Jim's site.)

Jim has his own concerns regarding the books, nothing diabolical, nothing under-handed. More so than anything his concerns are of protecting his creation. (From whom? Many enemies, not just the "copyrighted" anti-Freeper group. This is a political endeavor, afterall. Not to mention the most deadly enemy is the silent enemy you don't see.)

128 posted on 12/06/2001 1:26:32 PM PST by John Robinson
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To: d14truth
Not that you asked or anything, but...

I personally receive no money from Free Republic. Jim contracts my company at $11k/mo for bandwidth and services, including custom programming and maintenance. The $11k/mo covers most expenses (won't cover hardware upgrades, replacements, etc. and certain other expenses.) Bandwidth is almost all of a 10mbit Internet connection. (Does 1.2 Megabytes per second.) And the monthly cost should be less than that by a significant factor next month (renegotiations, relocations, etc. still pending.)

As for that $11k/mo received by my company, a very significant majority is used to cover the bandwidth, as testimonials elsewhere would corroborate. Bandwidth is expensive! The rest goes to my Pepsi habit, and minor things like rent. ;-)

129 posted on 12/06/2001 1:44:28 PM PST by John Robinson
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To: John Robinson
"The rest goes to my Pepsi habit...."

3-4 can a day man myself, I cut back from ~5.

Gotta get my 'caffeine' somewhere, so I drink 'leaded'. {;~)

Man, if I cut out Pepsi, I could double my monthly and still be ahead, or without one.

130 posted on 12/06/2001 2:10:17 PM PST by d14truth
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To: DoughtyOne
Donated and BTTT.
131 posted on 12/06/2001 5:57:01 PM PST by jpl
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