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WHO'S TRULY BEHIND THE ATTACK ON AMERICA
The Konformist ^ | 9-13-1 | Jim Marrs

Posted on 12/05/2001 12:00:36 PM PST by Magician

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To: Cleburne; mancini; T. McVeigh; Magician; Light Rules; spoosman; thusevertotyrants; droberts
Which freeper name above doesn't fit?

FAST-TRACKING THE GLOBAL AGENDA UNDER THE COVER OF WAR

(It's) Official White House Press Release on the Caspian Sea Pipeline.

161 posted on 12/06/2001 6:00:14 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: mancini
Oh, are all the victims still visible in there, just waiting to be counted?

Yeah, pretty much. A piece here, a piece there. Little pieces, mostly. Although about ten minutes ago, they just pulled another largish piece of a human body out of the rubble and gave it the flag-and-stretcher treatment. Every now and then, they do still find a mostly-whole body. But mostly they find pieces. Out at the landfill there are even more people than at Ground Zero, literally running the dust through sifters to find bone fragments. Every piece will be DNA-tested. Eventually we will know how many separate individuals were recovered at the site.

You really put any credence in the "take 220 storeys and do the math" method? That assumes that everyone in both buildings was "trapped" as though they were above the impact zone, like Cantor Fitzgerald, and that nobody was able to get out at all, even though they had almost an hour to escape Tower 2 and about an hour and forty-five minutes to get out of Tower 1. Yet this paragraph seems to suggest that 38,000+ people managed to die that day without anyone knowing about it, including the people themselves (they're at work, most of them, in the new offices their companies relocated to. They don't have a clue that they're really dead. Neither do their families and friends, who never reported them missing and continue to interact with them in a normal manner).

The only hope I hold out for this Chamish fellow is that there are quotes around the various paragraphs; so maybe these paragraphs in quotations are all wild-ass theories that various uninformed nutbars suggested to him during his travels, instead of this own "thoughts" on the subject. IF these are his own conclusions, though, he's a loon.

162 posted on 12/06/2001 6:12:28 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Magician
Government and airline officials knew immediately that planes had been hijacked, yet no interceptors appeared in the air until after the attacks were completed.

There was no precedent that suggested the intent of the hijackers to use the planes as suicide cruise missiles against buildings. Previous hijackers made demands and threatened only the lives of the passengers.

BTW, do you know where I can get real tinfoil? I don't trust that aluminum stuff!

163 posted on 12/06/2001 6:21:17 AM PST by JimRed
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To: Magician
I think it was Hillary! and AlGore. Hillary! was involved to derail W's domestic agenda, and Gore simply to get back at him for his loss in the election. Makes more sense than the Mossad/CIA/Caspian oil line tinfoil diatribes!
164 posted on 12/06/2001 6:27:28 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: hellinahandcart
From the beginning I was a little leary of the low figures. One of the reasons was this woman's account of Hurricane Andrew.
Granted, they are two separate events, but it stuck with me that this woman accused authorities of fudging the numbers.
165 posted on 12/06/2001 7:02:32 AM PST by mancini
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To: JimRed
I use aluminized Mylar, because I wrap myself in it completely before I sign on to FR. I also put on rubber waders.
166 posted on 12/06/2001 7:36:34 AM PST by Magician
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To: JimRed
Also, please consider that America's air defenses were designed to repel an attack by the Soviet Union...one that would have given us several days' worth of warning. We didn't have that.
167 posted on 12/06/2001 8:30:52 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: zog
The hole is right behind you dear. Active duty American? Right. You sound like a cry baby to me.
168 posted on 12/06/2001 8:44:06 AM PST by RetiredArmy
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To: mancini
Oh, honestly. Why not just admit the ABSOLUTE RIDICULOUSNESS of implying that, since Cantor Fitzgerald lost 700 on four floors (four floors from which there was no hope of escape, BTW), then 700 people per every other four floors in both buildings must have also obligingly died, even if they had a clear escape route?

Some conspiracy-minded folks are suspicious of our government deliberately inflating the death toll to whip up the war fever and give carte blanche to any action the government decides to take; yet this guy thinks they're suppressing the deaths of tens of thousands. And you seem to think the idea is reasonable. So tell me, what would be the motive for covering up the deaths of 38,500 people? And how would they hope to get away with it, considering the number of witnesses and survivors, not to mention the families of the 38,500? Hmm?

170 posted on 12/06/2001 8:58:43 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: T. McVeigh
Oh, so you're saying that no one was on board those aircraft?

Fee Fie Foe Fum, I smell the blood of a DU Troll!

171 posted on 12/06/2001 9:09:43 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: hellinahandcart
not to mention the families of the 38,500?

If you were a grieving member of a family, how would you really know how many other grieving families there were?

172 posted on 12/06/2001 9:23:14 AM PST by mancini
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To: T. McVeigh
Hmm...

Passenger manifests of the four aircraft list a bunch of people. Flight 93 crashing because the PASSENGERS on board attempted to regain control of the aircraft from the PEOPLE who hijacked it.

OK, my facts to the contrary are posted.

174 posted on 12/06/2001 9:34:43 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: It'salmosttolate
I am not sure I get your point. Would you care to elaborate?
175 posted on 12/06/2001 9:37:01 AM PST by spoosman
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To: Poohbah
OK, OK...it was me. Skynet. Internationally acclaimed uber-villain. Maybe you've seen my work in Terminator and Terminator 2?

Usama is really just my cut-out. He's actually one of my indestructible killing machines. Well, OK, he's a proto-type. So there's a few bugs in the programming. Sue me.

Anyhoot, see you carbon based life forms at the coming armeggedon!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa....< cough, hack... >

176 posted on 12/06/2001 9:41:54 AM PST by Skynet
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To: mancini
If you were a grieving member of a family, how would you really know how many other grieving families there were?

Utterly beside the point (and it doesn't answer my question as to motive, either). Most of these people don't know each other. The people who worked together in the same companies DID know each other. What would induce them to keep quiet? Don't you think any of them have, at the very least, looked at the list of names for people they personally knew? Wouldn't the absence of the name of somebody they KNEW didn't make it out that day set off an alarm? Provoke phone calls to relatives of the deceased, and to reporters? Remember, 700 per four floors. 38,500 people. Too many to be ignored or swept under the rug. This happened in New York, not Antartica.

If you were an employee of a business formerly located in the World Trade Center, wouldn't you notice the huge number of your coworkers who failed to show up at their new offices, or who suddenly couldn't be reached anymore? And I'm still wondering how it would be in anyone's interest (with the exception of America's enemies) to downplay the death toll, rather than inflate it. You don't have even a speculative reply for that..

177 posted on 12/06/2001 10:16:08 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Yes, I would only know of those folks in my own company. I would have no idea about the numbers in the others. I see what is printed in the paper and take that as the true number and leave it at that.

If the numbers are in the tens of thousands, perhaps that would set off more of an investigation. We will probably also part company on this--I am not buying that only those planes took down those buildings.

178 posted on 12/06/2001 10:40:09 AM PST by mancini
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To: hellinahandcart
This happened in New York, not Antartica.

Did you read the story in the link I provided? Do you give her an outside chance of being believed?

179 posted on 12/06/2001 10:42:41 AM PST by mancini
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To: mancini
You know, there's a certain type of individual that can only get blood flowing to their erectile tissue by envisioning the U.S. government engaging in naughty acts straight out of a bad Hollywood script and senseless coverups of same. So I hope you'll forgive me for not wanting to 'play' anymore.

And no, it wasn't "good for me, too"...

180 posted on 12/06/2001 10:53:21 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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