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To: Happygal
You are unfeminine, or more properly merely misguided in the same fashion as most of the age, for thinking that money, rather than your time and love, is what will provide "the best" for your children. If you think 3 year olds want big SUVs in the drive and beanie babies, but a nanny or daycare - instead of their mother and a worn out blanket - then you haven't (yet, I suspect) much sympathy for the concerns of children.

"For the children", we must save and scrap the plunder. Right, we aren't class conscious or status conscious, it is our non-existent progeny who are. We won't spend any of the money from our "two incomes" shopping at Needless Markups, or buying vehicles the size of small houses, or vacationing in the Caribbean, or getting our hair done, or on season tickets to A B or C. No sirree, every dime will go in trust to get non-existent Buffy and Keath into Yale. Where they too can be taught the freedom and self-empowerment of class-conscious money-grubbing, and how much more important that is than mere home and family - or whatever postmodernist nonsense will have captured the place by then.

I am not picking on you, understand, but on the misguided priorities of our whole age and time. Money is for the comfort of animal life, necessary in moderation to support higher purposes but distinctly secondary. We have put the means before the end. The place to draw the line is where pursuit of status or luxury endangers things truly higher. No amount of status or wealth is worth what we as a society are presently doing to our children.

119 posted on 12/05/2001 11:32:14 AM PST by JasonC
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To: JasonC
Come live in Ireland. The average house price is somewhere in the region of £120,000. That's for a semi-detached modest three bedroomed home.

It takes TWO incomes to finance a mortgage of that size, because the average wage is in or around £20,000. I happen to earn more than that. But if I fall in love with a guy earning less money than me, I'd marry him, if he is the `right' guy. But I would like to have a roof over the heads of my 'potential' children. So why shouldn't I work to do that.

Your argument is void. You are thinking black and white. There are so many grey areas here.

My father lost his job during the recession years in Ireland. My mother (god rest her soul) scrubbed floors the length and breadth of this town to make sure my brother and I got on. Both of us, are now, through her efforts, both fully qualified professional people.

Yeah, my Mam could have stayed at home and brushed my hair and stuff. But she went out and did what had to be done to make sure that her kids, had what she didn't have...a damn good education.

You trying to intimate that MY MOTHER wasn't a lady for doin' that? Damn sure she was. The classiest woman you would ever meet!

So, no! I make no apologies for saying that the sweeping generalisations in the posted article are nothing but...as they say in Ireland...horseshite! (oops, not a very ladylike word...but then, you wouldn't expect anything better from me, would ye?!)

195 posted on 12/05/2001 4:09:52 PM PST by Happygal
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