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AMA Declines to Call for Nationwide Smallpox Vaccinations
AP ^ | 4 Dec.'01 | Paul Elias

Posted on 12/04/2001 5:54:43 PM PST by rdavis84

AMA Declines to Call for Nationwide Smallpox Vaccinations, Suggests Further Study

Published: Dec 4, 2001

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - The American Medical Association on Tuesday refused to endorse smallpox vaccinations for all Americans, rejecting calls from doctors who say the disease could be used as a biological weapon.

Instead, the 538 delegates attending the AMA's annual winter meeting in San Francisco voted overwhelmingly to continue studying the possible repercussions of such a mass inoculation.

"We do not yet know that the bad guys have the smallpox virus," said Dr. Ron Davis, a public health expert from Detroit and a member of the AMA's 16-member board of trustees. "There are huge, complex issues involved and due deliberation is needed."

Some doctors said they worry the vaccine itself could kill as many as 300 people if the entire U.S. population were vaccinated. There's also disagreement about whether those already inoculated would need another vaccination to prevent a smallpox infection.

Babies younger than 1 and people with weakened immune systems couldn't withstand smallpox vaccinations, doctors said.

A nationwide smallpox vaccination program was discontinued in 1972, and the disease was eradicated worldwide by 1980. Two smallpox virus samples remain - one in the United States and the other in Russia. Concerns about security at the Russian lab have been exacerbated by the recent anthrax cases.

Smallpox is contagious, and roughly 30 percent of those who contract it die.

Last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued a report recommending that no vaccinations should be given unless an outbreak occurs.

The CDC recommended a technique called "ring vaccination," in which only healthy people around a smallpox victim would receive the vaccine.


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KEYWORDS: smallpoxlist
A little Sanity for a change.
1 posted on 12/04/2001 5:54:44 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
I agreed....
2 posted on 12/04/2001 5:58:53 PM PST by AMMON-CENTRIST
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To: rdavis84
"Two smallpox virus samples remain - one in the United States and the other in Russia."

That's quite an assumtion.

3 posted on 12/04/2001 5:59:30 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy
...assumption...
4 posted on 12/04/2001 6:00:06 PM PST by Shermy
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To: rdavis84
The proper thing to do would be to release the new vaccine and let doctors and their patients make the decision. Mass government-sponsored vaccinations would be a mistake, but so would locking up all the vaccine in government vaults. Why does it always have to be all or nothing with bureaucrats?
5 posted on 12/04/2001 6:03:02 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Cicero
"The proper thing to do would be to release the new vaccine and let doctors and their patients make the decision."

That's a good point. Why is the government staying so "in-control" of the vaccine ?

6 posted on 12/04/2001 6:12:56 PM PST by rdavis84
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Of course they wouldn't.

They would have to send all day giving vaccinations at $25 a patient.

No real money to be made.

7 posted on 12/04/2001 6:22:06 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Glasser
More probably the government is retaining control to preserve the health care system.

Can you imagine the chaos that would result if the government said "let's all get vaccinated; the sooner the better".

The health care system would come to a grinding halt as 200 MILLION Americans went zipping to their doctor or HMO on the day after the announcement.

9 posted on 12/04/2001 6:30:02 PM PST by Amerigomag
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10 posted on 12/04/2001 6:30:04 PM PST by WIMom
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"They would have to send all day giving vaccinations at $25 a patient."

I believe the RN can do that. At about 5 min. each, 12/hr@ $25 each= $300/hr. or $2400/day. Not bad. Don't know the vaccine cost. But if it's a Gov't paid for vaccine it should be no cost to the Doc.

11 posted on 12/04/2001 6:34:50 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Glasser
The politicians really are a sad lot, aren't they? The massive ego that MUST be fed daily leaves no room for true reflection or conscience.
12 posted on 12/04/2001 6:42:04 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: rdavis84
"They would have to send all day giving vaccinations at $25 a patient."

I believe the RN can do that. At about 5 min. each, 12/hr@ $25 each= $300/hr. or $2400/day. Not bad. Don't know the vaccine cost. But if it's a Gov't paid for vaccine it should be no cost to the Doc.

I just got a flu shot last week at the county health center. The RN's were only taking about 30 seconds per vaccination, and the fee was only $5 per person. Some years some of the major pharmacy chains such as Eckerd's have sponsored similar mass flu vaccinations. A doctor's office is a very inefficient place to get vaccinated for an epidemic. If it were necessary to vaccinate in order to contain an outbreak there would probably be temporary mass vaccination centers with several RNs working under the supervision of a physician. There are certain classes of people who would be vulnerable to serious vaccine reactions including those who have weakend immune systems. The only people who would need to talk to the physician are those at particularly high risk of complications.

13 posted on 12/04/2001 6:59:18 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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14 posted on 12/04/2001 7:18:18 PM PST by Dark Wing
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To: rdavis84
I disagree. It's not sanity. We are exposed. Why can't the vaccine be made generally available and we can take it of leave it. A lot of us would take the vaccine which would give a degree of immunity to the nation as a whole and take the load off the system should it ever become necessary to respond to an actual threat.

I think the AMA probably just wanted to get this discussion behind them so they can get on with their real agenda: ATTACKING OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

15 posted on 12/04/2001 7:37:44 PM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: rdavis84
As far as "ring vaccinations" go, I really can't believe that the CDC expects us to buy that one. Ring vaccination techniques were used in the end game during the final eradication of smallpox 20+ years ago. It involves vaccinating all the healthy people in the circle of exposure around a victim.

This worked because the third world locales where it was deployed were populated by people who never went more that 10 miles from their homes, sometimes in a lifetime. I do not believe that it is a rational response to an out break in the United States in 2001. It would have to be deployed in conjunction with very radical restriction of civil liberties and vitrual lock-downs.

A universal vaccination program would eliminate that course of action.

16 posted on 12/04/2001 7:45:14 PM PST by Liberty Ship
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To: rdavis84
The reason why they are not on the up and up is because it is their way of controlling the population.The government has nothing to do with it,it is the UN,NWO,Bilderberger Party,Illuminati,Committe of 300 etc. These are the ones who have the control,not the government.Big Brother gets what he wants........all the time.
17 posted on 12/04/2001 9:04:16 PM PST by WOLFnCAT
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18 posted on 12/06/2001 4:02:56 AM PST by Dixie Mom
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