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VANITY - Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, what solution would YOU propose?
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Posted on 12/04/2001 3:22:18 PM PST by Republican Party Reptile

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To: Republican Party Reptile; *war_list

42 posted on 12/04/2001 4:08:42 PM PST by Khepera
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To: BrooklynGOP
Let's put Israel aside and talk about Egypt's ability to weasel 2 billion out of US.

Don't play stupid. Egypt is the only Arab army that poses a significant threat to Israel, without it any Arab coalition to defeat Israel would fail. The aid given to Egypt is nothing more than a "payoff" to discourage them from attacking Israel.

44 posted on 12/04/2001 4:10:26 PM PST by northernwilson
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To: northernwilson
Exterminate the Palestinians ..... then go after any Muslim state that feels like taking on the US and Israel.

I hope you're not Jewish, but if you are you have no right to complain about the Nazi's in light of your last genocidal statement.

I hope you learn to read. There is nothing genocidal in his statement. What is wrong with going after any Muslims stae that feels like taking on the US and Israel? What is wrong with going after ANY state that feels like taking on US and Israel??? Should we not go after those who feel like taking on us?

45 posted on 12/04/2001 4:10:28 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: northernwilson
Don't play stupid. Egypt is the only Arab army that poses a significant threat to Israel, without it any Arab coalition to defeat Israel would fail. The aid given to Egypt is nothing more than a "payoff" to discourage them from attacking Israel.

You are joking right?

46 posted on 12/04/2001 4:14:32 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Republican Party Reptile
Since Jordan and friends started and lost the 1948 war, and caused this entire problem, the Palestinians should be moved to Jordan to become their state.
47 posted on 12/04/2001 4:15:00 PM PST by aimhigh
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To: Republican Party Reptile
I have a solution. Binding arbitration.

Both sides agree in advance that they trust me and will agree with my decision. I will meet with representatives from both sides and study maps, land records, historical and religious claims.

In twelve months, I render my decision as to where Israel's borders are. Neither side will like it, which means I may have it right.

48 posted on 12/04/2001 4:15:21 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: svcw
The land belongs to the Jews

If that's the case, then I have some land in Ireland that I'd like to reclaim, and to give some to my family and friends.

49 posted on 12/04/2001 4:15:30 PM PST by mxbluto
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To: Dog Gone
Both sides agree in advance that they trust me and will agree with my decision.

Cute, but arabs have issues with keeping their word. Look at Lebanon, under the pull out deal they were supposed deploy border guard to keep the integrity of their borders with Israel. They still haven't done so, and its been what? 2 years?

50 posted on 12/04/2001 4:18:33 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
There are decent Palestinian Arabs who do not support terrorism, and they are the forgotten ones, who have no say. Some of the ones that I know live inside Israel, and have Israeli citizenship and are happy with that, and they have jobs, and they are treated well. The USA does not talk to them, and prefers to confer with Arafat. I know many Palestinians living under the PA, who really want to go to some other country, but no one will allow them to go. Canada offered citizenship to Palestinians, but that made the Islamic terrorists angry, and Canada had to withdraw the offer. They accused Canada of trying to "steal" their citizens. The PA is only interested in using the Palestinian people for their own purposes, and they have no hope or jobs to offer the people. Islamic terrorist Palestinians are not prepared to run a nation, and they had rather spend their time fighting than to better the country.

Yes, I think that something can be done. Israel is such a small nation, even smaller than New Jersey, and it is the homeland of the Jews. Israel is a mere 260 miles long by 70 miles wide at its widest point, too small to divide in tiny pieces of nations. I have found that the Jews that I speak with are very giving and caring and have friends amongst the Palestinians, and have a willingness to share. I have so admit that there are Jewish fundmentalist, but they are fewer.

So what I would do to make thing right, is to offer Palestinians who can live under Jewish rule, full citizenship, no different than a Jew. Jews do not impose their religion on anyone, but it is opposite with the Muslims. Muslims want to control everyone, not only in Palestine, but in the whole world. I would allow the Palestinians freedom of religion, but if they taught terrorism or incited riots, down would come the mosque, the very day that it happened. For too long muslims have taught hatred in the mosques and in their schools, and anyone who supported terrorism or participated in it, would have to find another home, or meet their end. Terrorism just cannot be tolerated by anyone of any race. Islam is an evil that is hard to live near, and it costs too many lives every year. I don't think one person has ever died, because a Jew wanted to take a country over and force people to believe in Judiasm or take up it's practices. It just has never happened. So let the Jews rule in Israel, they are capable, and they are not opressive. It is only the Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists that want to control the country, not the average Palestinian, who would bring hell on earth to the people.

51 posted on 12/04/2001 4:19:32 PM PST by tessalu
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To: Republican Party Reptile; a_Turk; Turk2
Post 9-11 we must open our minds to a variety of solutions, including those not previously propounded or popular. This is especially true to "intractable" disputes. I submit that a sense of intractability exists only because we have not broadened our minds to other possible solutions. Rather, we relive and repeat old and failed ideas like a broken record.

Here's a pictorial representation of my solution, although the Arabian peninsula should be all red too.


52 posted on 12/04/2001 4:19:42 PM PST by Shermy
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To: mxbluto
The land belongs to the Jews

If that's the case, then I have some land in Ireland that I'd like to reclaim, and to give some to my family and friends.

Let's keep in mind that Jews are not "reclaiming" West Bank & Gaza. The land was acquired in a military conquest in a war that Israel fought defensively. The fact that Israel wants to give it to Palestinians is nothing but a sign of good will. Keep in mind that we didn't give California back to mexico in our war. Rush brought that point up today and I think its excellent.

53 posted on 12/04/2001 4:21:00 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: mxbluto
From svcw:

The land belongs to the Jews

Ooh, ooh! I want England. My family wants England!! God gave England to my family!!! We’ll fight the Saxon terrorist scum!! We want our Stonehenge back!!!

54 posted on 12/04/2001 4:21:03 PM PST by Fred25
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To: BrooklynGOP
There is nothing genocidal in his statement

Just substitute the word "Jew" in place of "Palestinion" and then tell me that the zionist fruitcakes on this thread wouldn't be jumping all over themselves trying to hit the abuse button. You folks don't seem to have a problem with maintaining an outragious double-standard. Equating all Palestinions with vermin is racist and has no place on this board.

55 posted on 12/04/2001 4:22:04 PM PST by northernwilson
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To: Republican Party Reptile
I would transfer the so-called Palestinians to some other (Moslem) country. I say "so-called Palestinians" because, let's face it, nobody, Arab or otherwise, was talking about a Palestinian "people" or "nation" during the 19 years between Israeli Independence and the Six Day Way. As long as Jordan held the West Bank and Egypt had the Gaza, the Arabs there were under Jordanian or Egyptian rule, regarded as Jordanian or Egyptian nationals, and nobody - especially the Jordanian or Egyptian govts - thought of giving them so much as a square inch of autonomous territory. Only when the Jordanians & Egyptians lost the Six Day War did we hear of yet another Arab "nationality" with an "entitlement" to land they weren't entitled to as long as the Jordanians & Egyptians held sway.

Now, back to the idea of transfer. This worked out, more or less, between the Hindus of India and the Moslems of Pakistan. Back in 1990, when Iraq invaded Kuwait, you may recall that Arafat was vocal in his support of Saddam; a rather pointless stand considering that the PLO couldn't do anything to actually help Iraq and as soon as Kuwait was liberated the Kuwaitis showed their appreciation for Arafat's stand by kicking out all the Palestinians (and Kuwait was one of the few Arab countries that had been willing to let them work). But at the time Saddam announced that he was making Kuwait the 19th province of Iraq; so we know that the Iraqis and the PLO are willing to be flexible about the number of provinces and the boundaries of Iraq.

This time we go into Iraq, leave Saddam dangling from a tree limb, and announce that we are carving off a province of Iraq to make a new country for the Palestinians. Then ship them all to this new country carved out of Iraq, and they can settle down in a Moslem state of their own - they'd even have a chance to drill for oil - about 4000 miles removed from the Jews! Maybe while we're at it, we can carve out another chunk of Iraq for the Kurds and make even more people happy.

56 posted on 12/04/2001 4:23:18 PM PST by DonQ
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To: Republican Party Reptile
Bush's announcement today that supporters of Hamas are targeted by the USA is most interesting.

Perhaps Bush wants the world (really just the terror states) to understand --- really understand --- that he means business. Therefore Arafat will either become an anti-terrorist or go out of existence, legally if not actually.

If Arafat falls the thud will be heard in all Middle East capitals.

57 posted on 12/04/2001 4:24:40 PM PST by aculeus
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To: northernwilson
Just substitute the word "Jew" in place of "Palestinion" and then tell me that the zionist fruitcakes on this thread wouldn't be jumping all over themselves trying to hit the abuse button. You folks don't seem to have a problem with maintaining an outragious double-standard. Equating all Palestinions with vermin is racist and has no place on this board.

Interesting how you didn't quote the whole thing. He clearly said that we should kick ass of those Muslims state that "FEEL LIKE TAKING US ON". What's wrong with that? Osama bin Laden felt like taking us on, are we not kicking his ass right now?

58 posted on 12/04/2001 4:25:24 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: BrooklynGOP
Interesting how you didn't quote the whole thing. He clearly said that we should kick ass of those Muslims state that "FEEL LIKE TAKING US ON

The phrase I had a problem with was: "exterminate the Palestinions". Interesting how you didn't quote the whole thing.

59 posted on 12/04/2001 4:33:19 PM PST by northernwilson
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To: BrooklynGOP
Let's keep in mind that Jews are not "reclaiming" West Bank & Gaza. The land was acquired in a military conquest in a war that Israel fought defensively

There is a serious dispute as to whether the "67 war was in fact a defensive war on Israel's part. Certain scholars suspect Israel wanted it so it could justify their expansionist agenda.

60 posted on 12/04/2001 4:40:37 PM PST by northernwilson
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