[Smogger]

I dunno.. It is strange how many of the posters that are critical of DEBKAfile or just the concept of nukes in the US appear to have joined within a week of each other and just prior to September 11th.. Hmmm...

"For the reord Tom Ridge already denied this. And it is already posted on FR." -- Mixer (member since October 23rd, 2001)

"I enjoy Debka.file. Really! It's my version of science fiction, which I don't follow."--meridia (member since member since October 28th, 2001)

"Debka File? Isn't that related to the Circular File? "--ahariail (member since October 19th, 2001)

"I don't think is true. Debka appears to be referring to Muhammed Butt, and he was reported to have died of a heart attack"--Mitchell (member since October 18th, 2001)

"Bite me. Debka has rarely scooped anything but poop."

"LOLOL.. well said."--Patria One (member since October 20th, 2001)

Scaaary! Now maybe they are all the same person. I am not so sure of their agenda though. Maybe it's to convince us of something. I think I will look into this further. ;-)

[Smogger]

Just after Sept 11th... duh

[meridia]

I happen to enjoy reading Debkafile.

I never read any science fiction.

I consider Debkafile, and occasionally other conspiratorial material to be my "sci fi."

IF such an innocuous remark, elicits such HOSTILITY and DISREGARD from you, much less an outright accusation that I have an agenda --- then I suggest you consult a professional about paranoia.

ANYONE who finds it at all strange that this website would have grown enormously after 911, obviously has difficulty thinking straight.

[meridia]

I had NO idea that your PUBLIC website was only to be used by longterm members --- or else their posts can be ridiculed or they get outright threats, like the above.

[Patria One]

LOL.. Do a little research on Debka.

[dirtboy]

I've been here since September 1998. Nice try to deflect valid Debka criticism as something having an ulterior motive.

[TigerLikesRooster]

Re #55 In one sentence, ignorance is bliss. Information like suitcase nuke or dirty nuke slipped into the country, if it becomes the mainstream knowledge, there will be unpleasant repercussions to many powerful interests. The public reaction generated by this can easily lead attention to many things which they would rather want to be hidden. The possibility of sinister(or incompetent) elements in spooks, incompetent foreign policies driven by campaign donors rather than national interests. Many dirty laudries will come out and they may never know which laudries will be exposed. The things which can be only known 50 years from now only to history buffs, the outrageous scandals, may come out now. The problem of internet as far as these folks concerned, their deeds will be exposed much sooner without the benefit of passage of time and forgetting. Badly shaken psyche of mass can destroy even entrenched powerful interest overnight. So badly shaken psyche is really "subversive". Look at what WTC attack did to left's agendas. Decades of incremental advance are being pushed back, put into grave doubt in large scale. It is wounded badly if not mortally. Acute crisis tend to put all accepted conventional views on their heads.

Possibility of nuke attack, biological attack, two planes crashing into WTC buidings, sudden crash of stock markets, Waco debacle. They all shake large number's people's mind badly enough to vigorously respond. One graphic torching of small fringe sect compound of almost no influence made people start to form militias.

In a way, some of these people in this forum are play a role of plunge protection team. They desperately try hard to keep the momentum to irreversably swing to the other direction where powerful interest can burn badly. In stock market, they keep pumping in money or instigate some up-rally by organized buy-back or other techniques. Since during the time of uncertainty, it does not take much to market to crash or to head in the opposite direction. Because dynamic is not stable enough and susceptable to small perturbation. So now we have a situation where all real economic indicators are not good or real bad but still Dow is very high. Dissociation of perception from reality can be created and sustained. But it will collapse real badly someday. It is like damming up the raging torrrent indefinitely. If you hold them too long, you will create a flood on a biblical scale rather than a few fancy beach front resort being washed up. But owners of the resorts have power and others don't. And when faced with the crisis, they get panic, short-sighted and worry about postponing of flooding rather than dealing with it now.

Likewise, some folks here want to do perception management to the level of the plunge protection team. They want to dissociate perception from reality again. What is really interesting is that this efforts are very concerted. I can understand that Bush or Ridge officially keep quiet about it. But they want to blame wrong suspects or show up in internet forum and police discussion topics. What is next ? Teacher instructing kids to look out for parents or old siblings talking about nukes and ratting on them out of civic(patriotic) duty ?

[RightWhale]

.. It is strange how many of the posters that are critical of DEBKAfile

Don't get me wrong, DEBKA is usually from an alternate dimension. They are extremely detailed and highly imaginative, but for room for all the things they report to be happening, earth would have to be several times bigger than it is. The nuke story has been reported elsewhere, so DEBKA may be near the truth this time.

[tallhappy]

I dunno.. It is strange how many of the posters that are critical of DEBKAfile or just the concept of nukes in the US appear to have joined within a week of each other and just prior to September 11th.. Hmmm...

Yeah. The anti-Debka people seem to have some sort of agenda, more than simply being skeptical or Debka's accuracy.

The anti-Debka faction can be described as obsessed, hysterical and irrational.