[Leesylvanian]

One part of the problem is the culture of low income minorities, no doubt. Whites had a dominant role in creating that culture.

Personal responsibility is great and all, and the white landowners who enslaved most of the ancestors of these people didn't seem to know a damn thing about it.

Slavery, that was abolished 166 years ago by force of arms with 600,000 mostly white deaths, cannot be blamed for the way people behave today, especially given the access to free public education, free childhood immunizations, laws preventing discrimination in hiring, etc.

The welfare state is more a cause of minority crime rates than slavery. Your argument might play well on the Democrap Undergroomed Web site, but not here at FR with educated, informed, realistic Americans.

[Belial]

Slavery, that was abolished 166 years ago by force of arms with 600,000 mostly white deaths, cannot be blamed for the way people behave today, especially given the access to free public education, free childhood immunizations, laws preventing discrimination in hiring, etc.

You should read a little more closely. I'm not saying slavery is THE cause of the problem. I stated there IS a problem in the culture accepted by many low-income blacks.

I did say slavery and racism is a contributing cause that many want to conveniently ignore. You probably know that many black soldiers returning from WW2 couldn't get into restaurants and hotels they were fighting to defend.

If you think crap like that won't have a poisonous effect, then bully for you, that you live such a namby-pamby, privileged existence!

[Osprey]

"Slavery, that was abolished 166 years ago by force of arms with 600,000 mostly white deaths, cannot be blamed for the way people behave today, especially given the access to free public education, free childhood immunizations, laws preventing discrimination in hiring, etc. The welfare state is more a cause of minority crime rates than slavery. Your argument might play well on the Democrap Undergroomed Web site, but not here at FR with educated, informed, realistic Americans."

Right On!

Very well stated!