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Bodies of 124 American Troops Have Been Flown Back Home
IRNA ^ | 12-2-01 | unknown

Posted on 12/03/2001 12:42:37 PM PST by Badfoil

Islamabad IRNA - The bodies of 124 American troops have been flown back home in a cargo plane on November 29, claimed a local daily here on Sunday.

'Pakistan Observer' reported that the troops were killed during clashes with Taliban fighters when they had landed in Helmand province to help the ex-governor of Kandahar Gul Agha's Lashkar fighters against Taliban.

It added the perished troops are being officially described as missing in action.

Meanwhile, another daily, 'The Frontier Post', said 65 US marines have been killed by Taliban suicide squads in southern Afghanistan.

Reports of fresh casualties come as the US and the coalition forces struggle to keep a tight lid on the talk of casualties in the country, the daily pointed out.

Quoting witnesses, the newspaper added since their landing in Afghanistan, the US marines have come under attack by Taliban several times.

It noted apart from more than 2,000 US marines, American Special Forces are also present in the southern parts of Afghanistan.

The newspaper stated that these attacks could be in retaliation to massacre of Taliban fighters by gunmen of anti-Taliban Commander Haji Gul Agha in the presence of US troops.


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To: Badfoil
Isn't there a difference between 124 troops and 124 bodies?
61 posted on 12/03/2001 4:10:09 PM PST by sonserae
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To: Sandy
I disagree. Before, that may have been true. But since September 11, polling data shows that we're willing to accept military casualties and civilian casualties (Afghans). Support has not wavered over reports of civilian casualties, when normally it will.

We will accept casualties if we're winning. If we get bogged down, if we don't achieve our objectives and we have casualties that seem not worth what we're achieving (like in Vietnam), then support will go down. But this is totally different from anything we've faced, except maybe WWII. I couldn't imagine hearing the casualty reports from WWII today. How many thousands of Marines were killed on Okinawa and Iwo Jima? How many were killed early on when it looked like we were losing?

No, unlike Vietnam, Somalia, Desert Storm and Kosovo, we've been attacked here in the U.S. It's different now. We're in it for the long haul this time, I can feel it.

62 posted on 12/03/2001 4:12:01 PM PST by wimpycat
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To: Non-Sequitur
http://www.warships1.com/UScg26_Belknap_fire.htm

I haven't got the hang of the html thing yet, so you'll have to cut-and-paste the link.

Bottom line - there was a Courts Martial. If there had been massive casualties it would have come out.

That guy who said he saw all the bodies on the hanger deck was - other than lying about seeing them - confusing the Belknap (why would they transfer bodies to the carrier where more people could see them?) with the fire on the carrier Intrepid.

One of my favorite quotes is: "Anything that's too big to hide, but can't be seen - isn't there."

63 posted on 12/03/2001 5:34:23 PM PST by PLMerite
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To: Non-Sequitur
If a quarter of the crew had been killed you never would have hid it. Nobody but nobody talks like sailors talk.

I am truly glad to hear that. I wou;ld hate to think that the government would cover something that up.

Munoz was adamant; said he was on shark watch and he counted over 100 bodies himself.

I still have pictures I took of Belknap. The bridge was also ripped completely open; you can look through the port side and see daylight on the far side.

Walt

64 posted on 12/03/2001 5:39:10 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Oh I've seen the pictures, too. They were widely published in a variety of official reports. There was also an in depth article in Proceedings written by the skipper of the Charles F. Adams, on of the escorts which fought the fire on the Belknap. One of their neater tricks was that they lashed a couple of fire hoses to the barrel of their 5"/54 gun mount. Then they cut in the water and used the mount to train the water on the fire. Worked real well.

Anyway, I'm sure your Sgt. Munoz was very adament. Next time you see him you'll have to ask him why they had him standing shark watch in the middle of a pitch dark night. What was he supposed to see?

65 posted on 12/04/2001 1:21:33 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: BruceS
Well Bruce, you are a trusting soul my friend.
66 posted on 12/04/2001 4:43:34 AM PST by X-USAF
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Tin Foil Man reminds me a bit of Jonah Goldberg. Oh, My Bad!
67 posted on 12/04/2001 8:32:45 AM PST by Endeavor
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To: Badfoil
The point is not to be credible to us. The point is to keep the Muslims believing they can compete on the same playing field as us. A war that kills 10s of thousands of the Muslims and is virtually bloodless for the USA would be a nightmare scenario for those trying to recruit in the Muslim world.
68 posted on 12/04/2001 8:37:26 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: Badfoil
Keep this up and I shall reach out through my monitor and abuse your head!
69 posted on 12/04/2001 8:37:43 AM PST by verity
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To: Badfoil
If it wasn't for their imaginations, they would never win a fight!
70 posted on 12/04/2001 8:43:45 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: Sandy
"mass casualties"

Just like those bastards to attack a church service!

71 posted on 12/04/2001 8:45:50 AM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: Badfoil
When the casualties reach 5,000 civilians who worked in N.Y.C. let me know. Then Nuke ‘em, and everyone else who danced in the streets on 9/11/2001 in the middle east…

Until then God Bless our Troops…


73 posted on 12/04/2001 8:53:06 AM PST by bluetoad
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To: Sandy
Americans don't like wars with American casualties. I have no doubt that support for the war on terrorists will plummet as soon as mass casualties begin.

No. This is not Vietnam, as I've said numerous times. This is not somebody else's war, this is one that was started on our shore and we're 4000 bodies down. Those casualties make this an entirely different matter from any military deployment since World War Two, and I don't think anyone expects us to get out of this as easily as we did in the Gulf War. Moreover, I don't expect "mass casualties" because we don't have a "mass" deployment. Well, not mass American casualties, at least.

74 posted on 12/04/2001 8:54:46 AM PST by Billthedrill
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