[Neets]

I like that deal..SURRENDER OR DIE..hehe,,,kinda direct and to the point. No one can ever say this Administration is the House of Waffle.

illstillbe...in the back of my head, all weekend, don't know why it took me so long to bring it to the front and it out here. Your comment about the "BEATLES" the other day?? I agree..i was never a big fan, their music was ok...I understand the history behind it..but I can't see myself going into periods of mourning when one of them passes away.

Dog, hope all is going well.

I am almost solo today at work, I have 2 of my people out(LOL I only HAVE 2 people), and my boss just called in sick. So, i'll be popping in and out of here when I can.

[Miss Marple]

OneidaM, I forget if you get Fox News at home. If you do, pay attention to a military commentator they have on from time to time, a retired Special Forces guy named David Christian. He is EXCELLENT in explaining things, and manages to also be inspiring. He was on this weekend and went on and on about how pumped the Special Forces guys are to have President Bush and Secretary Rumsfeld in charge!

[Guenevere]

Agree with you two about the Beatles......and the idea that Harrison's family is asking for a worldwide 'moment of meditation' today at 1:30 or 4:30 or whatever seems a bit much.-----Think I read his ashes are being sent to the Ganges.....

Bless his soul, I hope he saw the 'light' before the end, but I don't reverence or idolize him.

[Chairman_December_19th_Society]

I like that deal..SURRENDER OR DIE..

I took a little liberty to paraphrase.

The exact quote is: Surrender, or be killed.

[JRandomFreeper]

I'm already back. And I'm disgusted. My recruiter failed to get my medical records up to MEPS before she went TDY. I got up at 3:30 and drove to downtown Dallas, and sat in the processing center for over an hour before I found out. I have to reschedule next week when she gets back.

I'm taking a vacation day, and catch up on the sleep I missed.

/john

[Bitwhacker]

Hi OM!

You made a point about Israel/Palestine yesterday that I'd like to say something about:

1. The 'Palestinians', esp. after Arafat became head of the so-called PA, are semi-well organized and armed to the teeth. They are currently building a military from the so-called police force they have in place. The slingshot-warrior you see on TV is the romantic version; the car bombers and the guys dressed in camos gunning down 'settlers' is the reality.

2. This is NOT a land dispute. Taking the land, all of it, eliminates Israel and allows the PLO to crush the Jews, which is the real goal. The PLO will not be happy until all Israelis are dead. Period. Witness what happened when Barak tried to give more than Arafat was asking for at the last 'peace summit': Arafat started the current wave of violence. It is not in Arafat's interests to make peace, he loses relevance.

3. There have only been 2 cases that I know of where innocent Palestinians/muslims have been intentionally gunned down: one was the crazed Israeli opening fire in a mosque; the other was the massacre in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila, when Ariel Sharon (when he was Defense Minister) allowed radicals into the camps to do the dirty work. Neither was state-sponsored.

4. IMHO, Israel won the land it has in a war. That means they beat Egypt/Syria et al for it. They didn't invade; they were attacked. They should probably leave the settlements they promised to vacate, but only because they agreed, not because they don't belong there. (Besides, Palestine as it existed in the ancient world was what is currently Jordan. I would like to know how much land Jordan would like to contribute to the peace cause for their former bretheren. Thought so.)

5. Arafat to this day refuses to remove the clause in the PLO charter that calls for the destruction of Israel, and to insert a clause that recognizes Israel's right to exist. He has promised several times to do so; he has not. Yet he claims he wants to be Israel's good neighbor.

People need to remember that after the PLO, there is Hamas, then Hezbollah, then Arab/Muslim Brotherhood, etc., all in line ready to take a whack at Israel. UOx42 and his lapdogs Barak and None-too-Bright made things infinitely worse by encouraging the PA with idiotic, one-worlder, can't-we-all-just-get-along diplomacy -- none of which was aimed at supporting the only democracy in the region.

The PA would not be a democracy if they prevailed. We must decide what we stand for, and it is not the PLO...