Bring Back the House Committee on Un-American Activities

Chuckmorse.com ^ | Dec. 2, 2001 | Chuck Morse

[RLK]

Would the committee investigate Bubba, Hillary, and Teddy Kennedy?

[Uncle Bill]

"Would the committee investigate Bubba, Hillary, and Teddy Kennedy?"

"I don't care if you have proof that Clinton raped a woman and shot her dead, you're still not going to get 67 votes!"

[Uncle Bill]

Maybe a "Conference" would work.

[PhiKapMom]

Think it is a terrific idea! Certainly have a few candidates that should be first in line -- starting with the clintons, daschle, leahy, etc. etc.

[Paleo Conservative]

How many DemocRATS could you find to put on the committee?

[Outraged]

I miss Joe McCarthy.

[redrock]

NOT a good idea..........

redrock--Constitutional Terrorist

[Justin Raimondo]

Yes, Chuckie, and how long before FreeRepublic is dragged before this revived HUAC? I can't wait to see what President Hillary Clinton will do with military tribunals....

[Chuckmorse]

Justin...The criteria for what constituted "subversive" for the congressional committees was any group that conspired to overthrow the government through force or fraud, or was directly aiding or abbeting a group doing the same. Hearings were conducted to determine this and legislation was crafted to address specific conspiracies once they were identified. In this way, the government was able to prosecute both the Communist and the Nazi conspiracies without infringing on the rights and liberties of the rest of us. These committees had an excellent reputation until they were destroyed, by 1975, by radical congressmen, the ACLU, the National Lawyers Guild, and their vast constillation of fellow travelers. Since then, weve had poor internal security and government agencies, like the FBI and the INS running amock. The consequence was Sept. 11. What do you propose be done to deal with the crisis?

[Justin Raimondo]

Let's just arrest everyone and be done with it....

[Quila]

"These committees were able to identify those conspiring to aid and abet the activities of both the Communists and the Nazis."

If all of the Communists and Nazis were American, where are the illegal activities? I thought you are allowed to hold whatever political view you want in America.

"in the case of Communism, had deeply penetrated the American government, industry, academia, and other spheres of influence."

The Germans are spreading this fear propaganda today with the Scientologists. Hitler did it with the Jews. England did it with the Catholics. We did it with the Communists.

You and I may not like Communists in these places, but they have every right to be there (and we have the right to vote them out, boycott, revoke funding, etc.). The legal way to change our government is to become part of it, infiltrate it in a well-organized manner, and have your policies put into law. They were smart enough and organized enough to do it just as, for example, the Christian Coalition is today.

[mbb bill]

Good idea!!

[Texbob]

Yeah, the could start with beady eyed Daschle and Leahy, they are un-American.

[Chuckmorse]

There is a difference between holding opinions that are unpopular to the mainstream and conspiring to overthrow the government and society by means of force or fraud. Do you doubt such a conspiracy existed regarding the communists and nazis?

[Quila]

"There is a difference between holding opinions that are unpopular to the mainstream and conspiring to overthrow the government and society by means of force or fraud. Do you doubt such a conspiracy existed regarding the communists and nazis?"

If they were conspiring to overthrow the government through force, then that is a problem for DOJ, with specific criminal penalties regardless of ideology. IIRC, no one went to jail for this during the red scare. Mostly, people went to jail for refusing to cooperate with McCarthy, not for any actual crime or conspiracy.

If the overthrow is by fraud, exactly what kind of fraud do you mean? Vote fraud, which is illegal anyway? Probably not that.

By fraud, do you mean getting into government without disclosing your true agenda, and then covertly working contrary to the will of the voters who elected you or the elected officials who appointed you? If so, this sounds exactly like Ralph Reed's conservative Christian "stealth candidates."

But a "conspiracy" to get like-minded people into the government in order to change it and society to your way of thinking pretty much describes American politics as we know it.

[freeeee]

Bring Back the House Committee on Un-American Activities

…because one huge black stain on American history just isn't enough.

[Quila]

No, I say we put Ken Starr in charge, that way the investigation can last 20 years, cost $500 million, complete stray from the original reason for establishing the committee, and in the end fail to put the target terrorists in jail (but he'll probably be able to nail some married immigrant for receiving oral sex). :)