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'IT' Revealed. Self-Balancing People Mover (My title: Electric Scooter with gyros)
Drudge ^ | 12-02-01 | Drudge

Posted on 12/02/2001 5:00:19 PM PST by Timm

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To: Timm
One word. Lawsuits!
61 posted on 12/02/2001 6:47:07 PM PST by not-an-ostrich
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To: The Duke
And this is superior to a golf cart because???.

Golf carts can't climb stairs.

62 posted on 12/02/2001 6:47:45 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: ijk
Decades ago I saw a pictue of a motorized skateboard - it had a long rod that you used to control the throttle - if this thing is like that thing, and they offer 90% discounts, I might could buy one...
63 posted on 12/02/2001 6:48:50 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I'm not sure where you got your engineering degree, but I have a suggestion. If you don't want one, DON'T BUY ONE!!

Oh.

I never thought of that.

64 posted on 12/02/2001 6:49:17 PM PST by Fred25
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To: Walkin Man
LOL! I agree! The segway seems like one more thing Americans can use to avoid any physical activity

Very funny, especially to the millions trapped in wheelchairs by an inability to walk because of emphysema and congestive heart failure. They could die laughing.

65 posted on 12/02/2001 6:50:55 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Timm
For now, the first customers will be deep-pocketed institutions such as the U.S. Postal Service and General Electric, the National Parks Service and Amazon.com

Good to know the Post Office and National Park Service have such deep pockets.

66 posted on 12/02/2001 6:51:54 PM PST by freebilly
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Kamen doesn't say that they've improved batteries in any way, so I certainly wouldn't assume that they have.

Considering the wild claims he is making, I think it's safe to say that he would parade any advance in batteries that the segway (sic) has presently.

67 posted on 12/02/2001 6:54:28 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I am skeptical that a 20 pound scooter can be fall-proof with a wriggling 200 pound person aboard. If the person is riding it like a bicycle that's one thing. If the person is simply expecting the scooter to stay upright No Matter What (perhaps leaning over the side to take pictures, etc.) then some considerable counterweight would be needed.

I have my doubts, but this thing seems to be designed to meet these problems, most specifically, it does not seem to have a counterweight, that is the invention.

The comment in the article that getting hit by the scooter would be like getting hit by a pedestrian, sounds silly. Suppose it is only 20 lb. Imagine getting hit by a pedestrian on skates. Even moving at walking speeds, that is going to be a significant impact.

Since we're talking walking speed, I don't see how the impact of a 150 pound person with one of these things would be worse than the impact of a 290 pound plus person without one.

In any case, it certainly seems worth checking out.

68 posted on 12/02/2001 6:57:03 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
But neither can the segway (sic).
69 posted on 12/02/2001 6:57:45 PM PST by Post Toasties
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To: demsux
I love gyro's with the tzakitia (sp?) sauce. MMMMMMM

Now you've done it, I haven't had dinner yet.

70 posted on 12/02/2001 6:58:40 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Timm

Picture from Time mag of Segway.

71 posted on 12/02/2001 6:59:38 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
I trust you, but still can't see a reason why this thing's prices wouldn't behave the way all high tech mass marketed gadgets prices do.

Not all mass marketed gadgets, with high tech materials or design, decrease in price. Of the ones that do, not all of them decrease in anything like the way computers, VCR's, or DVD's have done. Electric wheelchairs, electric assist devices, motorcycles, mopeds/scooters, telescopes, binoculars, guns, and even high end bicycles have not dropped drastically in price in the past ten years.

In any event, before the inventor can hope for the prices to drop, he's going to have to find some demand for the thing as it is. The comparisons to IBM's misjudgment about personal computers require more than just the fact that this invention is dismissed. They require that the skeptic be wrong.

Yet, the problems with widespread adoption of this scooter as a "people mover" have been mentioned by many posters already. Most of these problems aren't specific to this device, and have been the pitfall of other purported car substitutes. Weather, range, carrying capacity, and discomfort are problems for mopeds, bicycles, and scooters you can fall off of. We have plenty of experience with these other devices. So far, huge numbers of people haven't gotten on them, and city planners are still shy about banning cars. There's no obvious reason to think these new scooters will be different.

72 posted on 12/02/2001 6:59:45 PM PST by Timm
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To: Timm
Why do I think you'll be finding these in a Sharper Image catalog??? LOL Hype does not create a market.
73 posted on 12/02/2001 6:59:47 PM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: Fred25
I never thought of that.

Always glad to help out a fellow Freeper!!

74 posted on 12/02/2001 7:00:23 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: The Duke
Can you get one with a gun rack?
75 posted on 12/02/2001 7:00:46 PM PST by Big Bunyip
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To: imperator2
Well, arriving to the job site ASAP is a plus also. FYI I still get plenty of exericize without walking the hard concrete floors.
77 posted on 12/02/2001 7:03:33 PM PST by dr gene scott
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To: SamAdams76
Sorry for the stereotype then. I saw the battery operation and just assumed it was to cut down on fumes and pollution in the city areas. JMHO, I don't like it and saw it as something else that would try to used in the future to take my V8 away from me
78 posted on 12/02/2001 7:05:20 PM PST by billbears
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To: freebilly
U.S. Postal Service

If this thing means that mailmen walking a route can carry more mail, it could pay for itself.

the National Parks Service

I, for one would love to rent one of these things for a few dollars in order to walk through Yosemite Park, or walk down a Grand Canyon trail. These things could make the parks profitable.

79 posted on 12/02/2001 7:05:36 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Actually, I was more excited about his other invention which makes steps and other obstacles accessible to handicapped people.

Which you will note has also cornered approximately 0% of the market. Quite fascinating technologically, but which nobody can afford.

80 posted on 12/02/2001 7:05:44 PM PST by Timesink
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