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American Taliban Fighter in U.S. Custody - Report
Reuters ^ | Sunday December 2 5:42 PM ET | Reuters

Posted on 12/02/2001 2:09:35 PM PST by mdittmar

A 20-year-old American who fought with the Taliban and survived a bloody prison uprising near Mazar-i-Sharif last week has been taken into custody by U.S. special forces troops, Newsweek magazine said on its Web site on Sunday.

A spokesman for U.S. Central Command, which is running the military campaign on Afghanistan , confirmed that a man claiming to be an American was in the control of U.S. military forces.

``Military forces in Afghanistan do have in their control a man who calls himself a U.S. citizen,'' Marine Maj. Brad Lowell, a Central Command spokesman, said.

``He was among the al Qaeda and Taliban prisoners; he was held by the Northern Alliance in Mazar-i-Sharif. He is injured and is being given medical assistance by U.S. forces,'' he told Reuters.

The man, described by Newsweek as ``a white, educated-sounding, apparently middle-class American,'' who identified himself only as Abdul Hamid, was taken into custody on Saturday at a hospital where he had been taken for treatment of minor gunshot and shrapnel wounds.

The special forces soldiers who detained Hamid took him aside for treatment and later left with him, doctors told the magazine. A Northern Alliance military source said the U.S. soldiers had taken Hamid to Mazar-i-Sharif, Newsweek said, adding that U.S. forces refused to comment on his whereabouts.

Hamid told Newsweek earlier he was a Washington, D.C., native but indicated he grew up elsewhere in the United States. He said he converted to Islam at age 16 and later went to Pakistan to study the Koran, Newsweek said.

Hamid said he came into contact with Taliban teachings while studying in Pakistan and traveled to Afghanistan six months ago to help ``because the Taliban are the only government that actually provides Islamic law,'' the magazine reported.

He fought with the Taliban at the siege of Kunduz in northern Afghanistan and surrendered along with hundreds of other fighters after the two sides negotiated a deal.

Hamid later was transferred along with hundreds of other prisoners to Qala-i-Jhangi fortress west of Mazar-i-Sharif, where a revolt ensued a week ago. The uprising was violently put down by U.S. warplanes and Northern Alliance ground forces.

Several hundred prisoners were believed to have been killed. A CIA officer was among those killed in the uprising, the first reported American combat death in Afghanistan.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abdulhamid; anotherabdul; johnlindh; liberalthink; mazarisharif; michaelspann; mikespann; talibanjohnny
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To: WoofDog123
Does anyone know if they use ak74's or -47s or both in afghanistan? I know the russians used the 74 there (I think it was the first wide-scale use of it in any field enviroment)

I've seen both in use. The easiest way to tell between the two, I think, is the magazine. AK-47/AKM's have black, ribbed mags, whereas AK-74's have orange, smooth-sided mags.

241 posted on 12/03/2001 12:03:05 AM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: okie01
Serving in the army of a foreign power which is at war with the U.S. a.) calls for automatic forfeiture of U.S. citizenship and b.) constitutes prima facie evidence of treason.


Heck, they should make any terrorist act in the U.S. call for automatic foreiture of U.S. citizenship and prima facie evidence of treason, not just serving in the army of a foreign power which is at war with the U.S.
242 posted on 12/03/2001 12:06:41 AM PST by Plumrodimus
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To: Andy from Beaverton
[re:#3]

Good work!!! Love it!!!
243 posted on 12/03/2001 5:32:37 AM PST by sidegunner
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To: mdittmar
BRING HIS ASS TO NEW YORK, WE GOT SOMETHING FOR HIM!!!!!!!!
244 posted on 12/03/2001 5:35:33 AM PST by All-American Medic
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To: LiberalBassTurds
Thank you. They knew their son was a Muslim radical who went to madrassas in Pakistan. Then they lost touch with him for seven months.

They should have contacted the State Department and provided them with information.

But clearly they neither care about their son or their country. If I hadn't heard from my son for months and he was last seen in Pakistan, I would be on a plane looking for him if I really thought he was such a "sweet boy".

Well, he'll be a real sweetboy now in prison. I hope they give him the gas very soon.

245 posted on 12/03/2001 5:37:00 AM PST by wideawake
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To: Gracey
You asked, "Anyone remember the young guy who took off for Pakistan, few days after 9.11, AFTER his mother was saved in the WTC by our NYPD, NYFD????"

I wonder if this is the same "sweet guy", too. We know we can't believe anything a grieving Mother says to defend one of her own. I mean, now that the little bastard has been captured, all the crap about him converting years earlier and going to Pakistan to help poor people could be lies.

I want clarification too. Are there two sweet, young American guys over there, both Taliban members who wouldn't hurt a fly, or are the two one in the same?

All this chatter about this captured guy being from DC,and/or Fairfax CA could be mistakes. (No kidding, FOXNews said, Fairfax, CA). Media reported the first guy grew up in DC area but moved to NY with his family in years past. I'm betting on conflicting reports, and there's only one American over there who joined the Taliban. The truth is still "out there", but we sure don't know it yet.

246 posted on 12/03/2001 5:46:16 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: wildconservatism; GussiedUp
he is a tragic hero.

"Aristotle says that the tragic hero will most effectively evoke both our pity and terror if he is neither thoroughly good nor thoroughly evil but a mixture of both; and also that the trafic effect will be stronger if the hero is "better than we are," in the sense that he is of higher than ordinary moral worth. Such a man is exhibited as suffering a change in fortune from happiness to misery because of a mistaken act, to which he is led by his "error of judgment" through his hubris (i.e., overweening self-confidence which leads him to disregard a divine warning or to violate an important moral law.) The tragic hero moves us to pity because, since he is not an evil man, his misfortune is greater than he deserves; but he moves us also to fear, because we recognize similar possibilities of error in our own lesser and fallible selves. . . ."

He is not a tragic hero. He was glad the terrorists attacked the WTC.

247 posted on 12/03/2001 5:49:51 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: esmith
Ask, and you shall receive!
248 posted on 12/03/2001 5:51:00 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: mdittmar
Actually, most 20 year olds in this country have no principles, at least this guy has things he believes in.

Say what?? Where did you come up with this info???

I've got to say I agree with WildConservatism. My impression is that many (if not most) people Gen-X and younger (my age) couldn't care less about anything remotely important - especially if it might mean personal sacrifice.

-bc

249 posted on 12/03/2001 8:09:19 AM PST by BearCub
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To: JeepInMazar
I just saw the CNN report. Listening to this guy talk gives me doubts that he is American, or at least that the story of him being over there for only 6 months.

Ditto!

250 posted on 12/03/2001 8:10:43 AM PST by F-117A
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To: JeepInMazar
I just saw the CNN report. Listening to this guy talk gives me doubts that he is American, or at least that the story of him being over there for only 6 months.

Ditto!

251 posted on 12/03/2001 8:12:20 AM PST by F-117A
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To: wideawake
Thanks! Great points. I agree with you completely.
252 posted on 12/03/2001 8:33:57 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds
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To: nicmarlo
Excellent description of the "tragic hero." This guys was a flake and will suffer the associated consequences. His parents should probably share the next cell.
253 posted on 12/03/2001 8:35:59 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds
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To: F-117A
The local reports here in the Washington, DC area is that he grew up in the Maryland suburbs (or at least until he was 10) and then moved with his family to CA.

Todays Washington Post says that he went overseas to study Arabic several years ago.

If all this is true, then it is obvious he has been immersed into this Arab/Pakistani/Islamic culture for a number of years.

254 posted on 12/03/2001 9:07:27 AM PST by JeepInMazar
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To: nicmarlo
While claiming to be a US citizen, he was trying to kill US soldiers. Since he was caught not in uniform, I beleive, he should be tried in military tribunal, and sentenced accordingly.
255 posted on 12/03/2001 9:45:13 AM PST by desertcry
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To: mdittmar

Treason!!!
John Philip Walker Lindh, 20, of Fairfax, Calif. (a.k.a. "Abdul Hamid")
When pressed about the 9/11 attacks he said ...
"Yes, I supported it."

256 posted on 12/03/2001 10:17:39 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Just get a rope and be done with it...


257 posted on 12/03/2001 10:22:30 AM PST by bluetoad
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To: Andy from Beaverton
About mid way through, it looked just like my brother in law!
258 posted on 12/03/2001 10:24:33 AM PST by snorkeler
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To: mdittmar
5 years? he wouldnt make it 5 days.
259 posted on 12/03/2001 11:23:25 AM PST by tm61
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