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To: tex-oma

"You are a moron and Bob Barr is absolutely correct."

Here for your edification is Section 1 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution's Bill of Rights -

' Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

This is the section of the Equal rights which everyone is carping about ... nowhere does it state that Legal or illegal aliens have the guarantee of our Constitutionall afforded rights. It does however specifically state "citizens of the United States"! The pre-amble of the Constitution says 'We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.' i.e. citizens of the United States!

Finally - Article 9 of the Constitution clearly states - 'The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.' On 9/11 our public security was sundered when the terrorists invaded our shores and committed their illegal acts of war. Whether or not they came legally by visa, or illegally by stealth into this country - they are engaged in seditious and insurrectional acts against the government of this country; and an attempt of permanently usurpating our established laws and domestic tranquillity. They are not citizens of a legitimately recognized Foreign power either - they are non-citizen war criminals of a illegal government. There is only one American citizen among them right now, that is known fact ... he was captured after the uprising in Mazar-i-Sharif ... and he may be afforded the protection of the Constitution. Article 3, Section 3 states -

'Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.' ... So he would be the only one afforded any rights under these articles.

Bob Barr is wrong!

I would submit that it is you who is a moron.

95 posted on 12/02/2001 10:16:13 AM PST by Colt .45
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To: Colt .45
This is the section of the Equal rights which everyone is carping about ... nowhere does it state that Legal or illegal aliens have the guarantee of our Constitutionall afforded rights. It does however specifically state "citizens of the United States"!

You apparently can't read very well. Okay, here's what it says: "nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." The fact that it just defined who is a citizen doesn't change the fact that at this exact point is says "person". A person's a person, no matter how small, or foreign. You seem to think that since it says "citizens of the United States" at another point, that magically changes the letters P-E-R-S-O-N into some other set of letters. It doesn't.

I already addressed the preamble thing, and habeas corpus is neither here nor there.

I would submit that it is you who is a moron.

He's not. You're in the running, however.

141 posted on 12/02/2001 11:25:05 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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