[H.Akston]

"; if here illegally, they can be deported or detained without violating their constitutional rights!"

So essentially, they have no liberty that can not be easily taken away, thus their LIBERTY (an "unalienable" right) is NOT protected from the States by the 14th Amendment, nor from the US Government by the 5th Amendment.

I believe this contradicts what Barr said. Maybe Barr didn't really say anything that meant anything, when you get right down to it. Just a posturing moment for another politician.

[VeritatisSplendor]

You missed my point. If they are here LEGALLY but are non-citizens, they have no problem. If they are here ILLEGALLY, they MAY be detained, but due process must still occur! (If you do something illegal you may be detained too!) I don't see why this means they're not protected by the Constitution. (It is true that if they were detained INDEFINITELY without being deported, the "cruel and unusual punishments" protection should kick in so that they are either deported or released after a fixed sentence is served).