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To: Cato
Read Romans where Jesus said IF you have no sword, sell your cloak and buy one. Seems to me that is a mandate from God to be armed and therefore a God-Given and "Constitutionally recognized" God-given RIGHT that predated the Constitution.

Oh come on. It "seems to me" that Jesus didn't say that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed by Caesar. Must you insist that I go down the list?

What about the quartering of troops that I mentioned? God given right?
Is it a God given right that I have right to counsel?
A God given right that I'm not unreasonably searched??
Does the Bible grant me the right to have a Grand Jury for a capital or otherwise infamous crime?
Is a "trial by Jury" there in the Bible?

You seem to be confusing unalienable rights with the rights of man agreed by man.

615 posted on 12/21/2001 7:27:37 PM PST by H.Akston
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To: H.Akston
Is it a God given right that I have right to counsel?

YES it is. Law and the counsel come from English tradition tempered with the phenominal Christian faith of the English and Scots. Check out Uriel 1975's brilliant articles on Calvinism/Presbyterianism and it's influence upon our founders and our nation's founding.

You seem to want to disregard that rights come from God and any deviation from this norm is an aboration of a men that have become full of themselves, thinking that they are fountainheads of civilization and wisdom. LOL!!!!!!!!!!

It "seems to me" that Jesus didn't say that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed by Caesar.

Seems to me that Jesus said sell your cloak and buy a sword.

You better read history for ALL, that's ALL evil and statist regimes have instituted gun laws under various STATES OF EMERGENCIES and excuses all to better enslave and control the people.

Jesus says BS on that and He says arm ourselves. God mandated and GOD-GIVEN!

BTW, you may want to look at the Constitution and the remarks of the writers. Even they say the rights came before the Constitution and were the Birth Right of all men and that they came from God and not some King, Government, Bureacracy, etc..

A GOVERNMENT is one of many defenders of those Rights given by God.

Any deviantion of a governmnent to this is a government not doing it's sworn duty.

READ THIS:

Any right GIVEN by government is not a right at all. It is a privilege.

Why should a right be given??

Just "recognise it", protect it and that is all that needs be done.

But to "give it" implies you never had it UNTIL governmnent gave it to you.

Strange Days are here,
CATO

640 posted on 12/24/2001 9:38:23 AM PST by Cato
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