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To: tex-oma
Ok Tex, so the Constitution applies to all who are on our soil? So this means that if there is an invasion by say, Red China, we can't just shoot people in the uniform of Red China on sight, we have to call a cop to arrest them?

In WWII Japan took over one of the AK islands, should the invading solders have been accorded all the rights of citizens?

And Tex, why should we stop at enemies of our nation being granted the rights of citzens only if they are on our soil? Shouldn't we have granted the Jap Air Force the rights of citizens while they were over our soil on Dec 7, 1941?

And you have the gaul to call HA a moron?

MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/

46 posted on 12/02/2001 9:23:49 AM PST by logic101.net
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To: logic101.net
Not only could you not shoot invading Chineese soldiers but you would have to have a warrant to search them for weapons.
51 posted on 12/02/2001 9:26:55 AM PST by go star go
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To: logic101.net
Ok Tex, so the Constitution applies to all who are on our soil? So this means that if there is an invasion by say, Red China, we can't just shoot people in the uniform of Red China on sight, we have to call a cop to arrest them?

If you're going to talk about the effects of the Constitution applying to an invasion (which of course it does), the logical thing to do is to read the Constitution itself to see what it says. Here's a quotation from Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion

So, then, the federal government is required to fight off any invasion, since an invasion of the United States necessarily involves invading particular states.

134 posted on 12/02/2001 11:12:53 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: logic101.net
Ok Tex, so the Constitution applies to all who are on our soil? So this means that if there is an invasion by say, Red China, we can't just shoot people in the uniform of Red China on sight, we have to call a cop to arrest them?

Many refuse to admit that we are at war. We have been attacked and our citizens killed.

155 posted on 12/02/2001 11:45:32 AM PST by cinFLA
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To: logic101.net
In WWII Japan took over one of the AK islands, should the invading solders have been accorded all the rights of citizens?

It must be kept in mind that terrorists are legally defined as combatants. According to the Geneva Convention they are "illegal combatants" and their actions are classified as war crimes but they are "combatants".

The Japanese on Kiska were also combatants living on U.S. soil. However, they had a higher legal standing under the law because they were legal combatants.

The question becomes, "Are combatants waging war against the United States on U.S. soil covered by the Bill of Rights.?"

219 posted on 12/02/2001 2:34:35 PM PST by Polybius
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To: logic101.net
So this means that if there is an invasion by say, Red China, we can't just shoot people in the uniform of Red China on sight, we have to call a cop to arrest them?

Only upon probable cause that each particular of the arms bearing gentlemen have committed a specific crime. ...And for many, if the officer did not witness the act himself, a complaint be filed in writing, and a judge signing a warrant.

244 posted on 12/02/2001 3:43:49 PM PST by lepton
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To: logic101.net
MARK A SITY http://www.logic101.net/

I'm hoping that you are smart enough to learn. If you are,you are going to be horribly embarrassed to have been using that screen name.

260 posted on 12/02/2001 4:01:45 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: logic101.net
U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 2 “The judicial Power [of the United States] shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority...to Controversies...between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens, or Subjects.”
567 posted on 12/04/2001 10:47:09 AM PST by Hootowl
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