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To: Texasforever
Sure. He has the right to counsel, he has the right to be met only with the appropriate force, he has the right to a trial by jury, he has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty, he has the right to expect that the laws in place are the ones that he will be charged with, he has the right to punishment that is not "cruel or unusual". So even a felon has rights. Know why? Because our rights are not derived from the Federal government.
351 posted on 12/02/2001 5:27:17 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski
Sure. He has the right to counsel, he has the right to be met only with the appropriate force, he has the right to a trial by jury, he has the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty, he has the right to expect that the laws in place are the ones that he will be charged with, he has the right to punishment that is not "cruel or unusual". So even a felon has rights. Know why? Because our rights are not derived from the Federal government.

That is the wrong answer. First, he did not have the right to enter your home. If you shoot him, you have negated his "right to life", if you apprehend him his "right" liberty, is also negated. His "rights" ended at the point he entered your home. An illegal alien has no right to enter my "home"/country in which I pay taxes to keep him out. When caught he has NO expectation of presumption of innocence, just being here negates that assumption. When that illegal alien commits a crime and is caught he has only the "right" to counsel and the "right" to a trial in whatever venue the government decides. IF that illegal alien is acquitted, he will be deported. The venue this administration has decided it will use are the military trials for non-citizens charged with terrorist activities. There is nothing unconstitutional at all in that action.

372 posted on 12/02/2001 5:42:29 PM PST by Texasforever
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