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To: JD86; nopardons
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To: exodus; nopardons; All
Dear exodus, let me use little words. If you are in a foreign country...that means not the United States, then it does not matter in that country what the laws are in the United States, what the Constitution of the United States says, or whether any of the United States legal system is valid.
I understand your argument, in your opinon, your inalienable rights come from your Creator, and no government can either give them to you or take them away. I am telling you that is a wonderful argument to make in America. But in all the other countries of the world...they would consider it so much babbling as they led you away. They don't care about your inalienable rights, they don't care about your rights period. And they certainly don't have laws to protect you. Thank all you hold holy that you live in the United States. And if you don't think that is true. Thank all you hold holy that you are free to leave the United States any time you so choose.
# 199 by JD86

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The point is that I have rights,
even if I'm locked up in an American jail.
In another country, I still have rights.

Your "it doesn't matter if you do" argument makes no sense.
If I owned a car, and you stole it,
it's still my car, even though I don't have the use of it
because of your infringement of my ownership right.
It's still mine.

208 posted on 12/02/2001 2:03:59 PM PST by exodus
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To: exodus
If it makes you happy exodus, keep saying it. When you are locked in that foreign jail someday, your mantra can be: "I have rights".
215 posted on 12/02/2001 2:12:11 PM PST by JD86
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To: exodus
Sheeeeeeeeeesh ! In a forgein coutry, you have the " RIGHTS" granted you b THAT country; which is NOT the same thing, at all, as having the " RIGHTS " granted you, as an American citizen ( if your even are one ) , in America. Try telling gaurds in an jail, in Peru, Indonesian, or Afghanistan , that you have " RIGHTS " granted to you by the Constitution, of the USA, and the BoR ! Boy, are YOU in for a shock ! LOL

So, you have " RIGHTS " ( ? ) about a car, even if that car is stolen ? REALLY ? What " RIGHTS " are those ? Paying for/ collecting the insurance ? Your analogy doesn't work.

477 posted on 12/02/2001 8:52:10 PM PST by nopardons
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