To: nomasmojarras
Yes, all citizens are given rights unless they are given due process, and found to NOT be a citizen.You are not "given" rights. You have rights by virtue of the fact that you are a human being.
AAARRRGGGHH! This thread makes me want to tear my hair out. Didn't anyone take Constitutional Government in high school? Weren't you required to memorize and understand the Bill of Rights before you could graduate from the 11th grade?
Do you really think that police officer, who shoved a plunger up a foreigner's rectum, had the blessings of the US Constitution on his side?
To: schmelvin
I am involved with a legal case that has an ambulance chaser (no offense, but best description) representing the estate of an illegal immigrant who was killed here in an automobile accident. She was her illegally, the driver had no license and fled the scene, they had no insurance, and they drove recklessly around a hazard that several other drivers managed to avoid without incident. Guess what, they can sue the American business owner, and are for over $5 million.
It is my understanding, however, that the Military Tribunals are a Department of Defense deal as a result of the would be detainees status as an enemy that has declared war on us. Their rights, as such, might be better found in the Geneva Convention wording, not our Constitution. It should also be noted that most of the models of behavior were not based on an enemy of the sort we deal with today. The threat of massive intelligence information flowing into the public domain is real and of great concern.
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12/02/2001 2:16:28 PM PST by
Dolphy
To: schmelvin
"Didn't anyone take Constitutional Government in high school?"
Let's not show our age, shall we? I don't think that anything called "Constitutional Government" has been taught in government schools for at least the last 20 years. And if a course was called that, it would not teach proper Constitutional principles.
Just look at the posts on this and other threads in support of President Bush's tribunals, especially the mantra that "non-citizens do not have any rights under the Constitution." Even Freepers who are denizens of a website dedicated to the support of our Constitution do not understand the Constitution. What's worse, I have seen more than a few who admit that they don't know and don't care what the Constitution says.
But we are educating them, whether they like it or not.
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