Army May Use Gas To Smoke Out Bin Laden

The Times (UK) ^ | 12-01-2001 | Michael Evans

[Newbomb Turk]

Pay per view maybe?

[nightstarpm]

Everyone keeps saying they have gas masks...no one seems to remember you have to remove it to eat.

[MJY1288]

Gas bin Laden? Wait until the ACLU hears about this :-) Between them and the libertarians, Bush will be impeached for ignoring the constitutional rights of terrorist

[LibWhacker]

Plus, in addition to what some others have said, I'm pretty sure no single type of gas mask works for every chemical and biological agent. So "all" we'd have to do is hit 'em with a mix of gases.

[VaBthang4]

This is a completely stupid article.

[MJY1288]

Actually, a gas mask will not protect you against all types of gas, many of the forms of lethal gas is absorbed through the skin as well as the lungs. But when inhaled the potency is much greater, if you don't believe me...just ask X42 ;-)

[Joe 6-pack]

"This is a completely stupid article."

Not as ignorant as your response. I find it ironically delicious that the art of sappering will be brought back to the fore of military thought, and that much of the technology employed will be that developed by the object of liberal hatred, "big oil."

[rottweiller_inc]

The main priority would be to “produce bin Laden or his body”, not to reduce the bunker complex to a pile of rubble, one defence source said

heh

[VaBthang4]

Uhhhh yeah!

[El Gato]

OSAMA BIN LADEN could be flushed from his Tora Bora hideaway by military engineers drilling holes in the mountain and filling the cave complex with a disabling gas.

If you've got the ability to introduce gas, you should use a flameable one. Disabling gases are not reliable, the difference between an effective dose and a killing dose is not that large. It also varies by individual. Using any kind of "gas" that results in people, and I use the term loosely, being killed will bring out the hand wringers and blame America crows in force. In any event, they probably have masks.

[Joe 6-pack]

"Uhhhh yeah!"

I think you will find multisylabbic speech a far more effective vehicle for communicating your thoughts, provided of course, that is within your capabilities.

[VaBthang4]

Uhhh yeah.

[El Gato]

Why bother with gas, use NAPALM!!!

I believe we got rid of that. Too inhumane you understand. However, FAE's are OK? Well I guess I just don't understand the nuances of a fiery death. Besides in this case you want the stuff to flow, not to stick, which is what Nape tends to do. Natural gas also flows to the low spots. We had a nasty section explosion and fire in Texas a few years back. A NG pipeline broke and the stuff filled all the low places, until some dufuss drove a car through one of them, then BOOM! a good chuck of countryside went up. Fortunately it was not a contained explosion, but probably was somewhat similar to an FAE on a larger scale.

[El Gato]

Charles Heyman, editor of Jane’s World Armies, said that care would have to be taken to ensure the roof of the caves did not collapse.

Seems to me that having the roof collaspe would be a desirable outcome, as long as your folks aren't inside at the time. Setting off Claymore's inside a cave doesn't sound very healthy in that regard. Hard on the troops hearing too.

[VaBthang4]

Are you sure we got rid of that?

I remember Marine F-18 strikes on front line Iraqi trenches using Napalm.

[Joe 6-pack]

"Uhhh yeah."

The defense rests its case...

[VaBthang4]

Uhhhh yeah.

[Rain-maker]

Sounds like "BZ" gas will be put into use. Even with gas masks the filters last about 4 hours before needing changed. just a matter of time before they go into la-la land.

May I suggest using sulfuric acid vapor and hydrogen sulfide gas...eats the filters right out of Akmed's masks.

Call the Orkin-Man this cave has vermin...lol.

[RoadKing]

Uh, gasing OBL out of his cave sounds like a nifty idea, but shouldn't this type of stuff be kept secret UNTIL it gets done?? Seems this type of media coverage could give 'em time to prepare?

Sheesh

[RJS1950]

Sulfur dioxide (one of the stinky parts of a common stink bomb) or several other organic sulfur compounds in even moderate concentrations and carried by steam could kill anyone inhaling it in a closed area.