Hidden-weapon argument made

Cincinnati Enquirer ^ | 30 November 2001 | Dan Horn

[Deadeye Division]

Ohioans for Concealed Carry

www.ofcc.net

[Deadeye Division]

Bang

[Blood of Tyrants]

“Nobody challenges the right to bear arms,” said John Arnold, an attorney for Hamilton County. “The question is whether the state may prohibit carrying concealed weapons.”

Simple solution, carry openly.

[coloradan]

Carry openly, and get stopped and harrassed by officers a dozen times every day.

[databoss]

I'll rely on the sound judgement of 12 of my fellow citizens in the event that I have to use my illegally concealed weapon to defend my family and myself.

[muggs]

Thanks Deadeye.

[jrg]

I'll rely on the sound judgement of 12 of my fellow citizens in the event that I have to use my illegally concealed weapon to defend my family and myself.

With the dumbing down of America, do you think that you really want your fate resting on "a jury of your peers"? A jury of your peers will not be among the 12, I'm afraid. You'll have the Oprah watching crowd...

[beowolf]

Not, here, in Az. Too many people carry open, and there aren't enough police to stop them all, even once a day.

[Deadeye Division]

I believe the next day for testimnoy will not be until Tuesday December 3rd.

[coloradan]

Then there's a threshold effect. Here essentially no one does it - and the police have stated that they WILL stop anyone they see, or are called about, who is openly carrying.

That is probably even more so in Ohio.

[beowolf]

That's a damned shame...it serves to intimidate people from exercising their right to carry open by the implied threat of public humiliation. Nice police policy there...the liberals must love it.

[Deadeye Division]

Testimony challenges concealed-weapon law

11/30/01

Bill Sloat
Plain Dealer Reporter

Cincinnati

- Ohio's streets would be safer if law-abiding citizens packed side arms, a gun-rights expert testified yesterday during the opening of a court challenge of the state's 75-year-old law against concealed weapons.

David Mustard, an economics professor at the University of Georgia, said that crime rates have declined between 3 percent and 10 percent in the 33 states that now allow concealed weapons.

"The effect is to reduce violent crimes: rape, robbery, murder," Mustard said in Hamilton County Common Pleas Court.

In 1996, just nine states allowed citizens to carry concealed weapons, Mustard testified. Now, it's a majority.

Under Ohio law, only law-enforcement officials are allowed to carry concealed weapons. Some Ohio legislators have been pushing to repeal the ban, a move that is staunchly opposed by many police agencies across the state. The Cincinnati court case opens another front against the ban.

Judge Robert Ruehlman is hearing the civil lawsuit, which contends Ohio's concealed-weapons laws are unconstitutional, without a jury. Experts who disagree with Mustard's findings are due on the witness stand when the trial resumes next week.

State law makes it a felony to carry a concealed weapon. In Cincinnati, it has been vigorously enforced for years.

Chuck Klein, 59 and a Cincinnati private detective, is the lead plaintiff in the case. Klein said many Ohioans are already carrying guns.

"These aren't criminals," he said. "You've got waitresses, truck drivers, pizza delivery drivers, musicians, all carrying guns today to protect themselves."

Contact Bill Sloat at:

bsloat@plaind.com, 513-631-4125

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Second Amendment Foundation Cincinnati Lawsuit News Release Click Here

[Francohio]

May the next Cincinnati riots be the shortest in recorded history. Carry concealed and be judged by 12. Don't, and you'll be carried by 6.

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Survey: Top Cops Don't Mind Concealed Carry Laws

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Trial begins in challenge to Ohio's concealed-weapons ban

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WKRC T.V. in Cincinnati conducted a phone in poll during the news broadcast 11-29-01 on the subject as to whether law abiding citizens should be allowed to carry concealed weapons.
The results: Yes 81% No 19%

[walden]

"Mr. Arnold said the case belongs in the state legislature, not the courts. "

Absolutely correct. It always fascinates me when conservatives who DEPLORE legislation from the bench, when achieved by liberals, turn around and try to do the exact same thing. People who do that don't actually have principles-- they just have objectives-- and they buy into the liberal argument that the end justifies the means. Hypocrites.