Posted on 11/29/2001 10:29:12 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
If you have any relevant examples that might applied to those called up in service as militia (as my comment origionally stated), then just say so.
There was a Road Runner cartoon when Wiley Coyote (?sp) caught the Road Runner. He held up a sign theat said something to the effect of "I caught him. Now what do I do?" In a sense, it is the same on FR "We won, now what do we do/who do we fight?"
That is not true for many of the people who have been here far longer than me, but I do notice it nonetheless.
It's the tribunals and the Patriot Act and the fact that the public, including far too many here, call for more.
This is where debate is healthy. I am a full supporter of the Military Tribunals. Not the Patriot Act. I am also bothered by those who would willingly sacrifice more in the name of safety. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however, what bothers me is that some refuse to look at the big picture or to debate the issue. I am not as articulate as many are around here, in fact, many times I tend to talk in circles. But FR seems to be the only place where true politcal debate occurs. If you home is like mine, it is one thing for everyone to sit around and talk about what a scum bucket bubba was, but no one wants to talk politics. I've been called the closet leftist liberal in my family because of my concerns about the Patriot Act. We elected Clinton twice. As a nation, we are not that smart.....we can elect someone like him again & again.
However, this is a wonderful place to learn. I've learned many things from many fine people. I've learned breaking news several days before it hits the mainstream media. I am free to make an utter fool out of myself & occaisionaly I might even say something extrodinarily intelligent. Is this a great forum or what?
What a gang of imbeciles.
As I remember the story from more than 30 years ago, what happenned is that the Bill of Rights was presented as a petition and most people wouldn't sign it (especially that dratty 2nd amendment, you know).
There is of course no justification whatsoever for the statement that I would support ANY measures deemed expedient. As far as LC Sulla is concerned, your summary of his career is essentially correct, if oversimplified. I have gone into this before, (I guess I should get around to putting in on my FR Homepage), so I will only briefly outline my reasoning.
Sulla took drastic steps to try to restore the traditional Roman republic. He put in place what became known as the 'Sullan Constitution', which tried to codify his ideas. The decay of this Constitution occurred during the final collapse of the Republic. Sulla was the last Dictator to do what the Romans felt was required in this office, which was to retire from the government after a brief term in office. The next and last Dictator was Julius Caesar, who did not retire, as we know.
I chose the name because I believe that our American Republic is at a parallel point, that is, in its dying days. That reform is likely to fail, and even drastic efforts are unlikely to save our Free Republic.
That is right, the only one's fighting an outright war against the American people are the terrorists, a war in which you are on the same side as the Taliban, that is, on the side which is against President Bush.
To remind you, a war is characterized by an intent to kill one's opponents. You have made it clear that you consider that you are in a war against the Commander in Chief of the American nation. When it comes to spilling blood, I will do what I can do to see that it is not the President whose life is lost.
Polish his shoes while you're down there groveling.
WWII is the closest example to the kind of war we are now fighting. I was simply pointing out what happens in a war to those, whether regular army, organized militia, or unorganized militia, who does not follow the orders of their officers. Which is to say should you be drafted (and a resumption of the draft is becoming more likely every day), and should act in the way you said, this is exactly what will be done to you. If you think that your fate is irrelevant, who am I to disagree.
No thanks to your continual cheerleading for a war on the American people by the government.
a war in which you are on the same side as the Taliban, that is, on the side which is against President Bush.
Yet more confirmation that you are a fascist.
To remind you, a war is characterized by an intent to kill one's opponents. You have made it clear that you consider that you are in a war against the Commander in Chief of the American nation. When it comes to spilling blood, I will do what I can do to see that it is not the President whose life is lost.
You're a liar and a jackass. Quote where I said that.
You are also a liar and a jackass for saying the president is commander in chief of the American nation, rather than armed forces.
Yes. And the Founders tried VERY hard to create a form of government that would keep it that way, with all the checks, balances and limits of power that the Constitution provides. Unfortunately, we have squandered what many of them gave their lives and fortunes to create.
No, but when you are being inducted, following being called up in the draft, either you will take the oath, making him your commander in chief, or you will not, in which case you will spend a decade or two in the slammer.
Indeed it does. Thanks.
LOL!!!
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