[Bob J]

To All:

There have been many well intentioned suggestions about supporting FRT through ad revenue (do we really want this site cluttered up with ads about K cars and Tidybowl anyway?), subscriptions, membership fees etc. At this point, FR cannot do any of these things without violating it's FAIR USE claim in the lawsuit. It's been gone over many times and the only viable way to fund this site is through the individual voluntary donations from it's fans. Taking subscriptions or membership fees would mean excerpting and linking and Jim (and most others) feel this would take away fromt he essential nature of the site. Plus, we'd have to lose ALL the archives.

BTW - Those that feel there should be a monthly fee can always sign up for a monthy donation. Six of one half dozen of another.

[nunya bidness]

I trust JimRob but I don't trust you.

When he says no accountability he means him, when you do what does it mean?

Who is in charge here?

[TLBSHOW]

Those that feel there should be a monthly fee can always sign up for a monthy donation. Six of one half dozen of another.

BIG BUMP

If everyone gave just 20.00 a month. You get the point. Come on everyone lets show the anti-fr girly boys why they are out numbered and out foxed. Their site is a hate site plain and simple. The Harry and Arator and tekman spew featuring bigNut! Attack the attack dogs. LOLROF

RadioFR DEC 6TH with Jeff Head interview and call in.
TLBSHOW

[Licensed-To-Carry]

BUMP

[AKA Elena]

To All:

There have been many well intentioned suggestions about supporting FRT through ad revenue (do we really want this site cluttered up with ads about K cars and Tidybowl anyway?), subscriptions, membership fees etc. At this point, FR cannot do any of these things without violating it's FAIR USE claim in the lawsuit. It's been gone over many times and the only viable way to fund this site is through the individual voluntary donations from it's fans. Taking subscriptions or membership fees would mean excerpting and linking and Jim (and most others) feel this would take away fromt he essential nature of the site. Plus, we'd have to lose ALL the archives.

I have highlighted the portions of this post of Bob J's to let those who don't realize that there is a lawsuit still in appeal that would be jeopardized (further) from being settled in JR's and FR's favor, if we acted like a real profit making business ... which we are NOT

1. WOW. I had no idea how expensive it is to run this site.
I know that the actual costs have been alluded to more than once on the FREEPATHON threads.

2. Hugh Hewitt just said on his show today that most talk show hosts use FR as their resource for info. (They owe you.)

3. HOW ABOUT A PLEDGE DRIVE with gifts like on PBS. "Free Republic" t-shirts, bumperstickers, mugs, umbrellas-- your special gift depending upon the size of the contribution.
We already have or had all (most) of those items in the FR store -- is it Bob J or doughty one or who that had the inventory. The coolest thing I ever saw (wanted/had on my personal wish list) was the FR jacket. All the hints in the world never convinced any of my family that I should have one though and they are Wa-a-a-a-ay over my budget (I think they were $80, or so).

4. Is there any way to cut down on non-fixed expenses?

5. I'm curious to know what percentage of your costs is covered by ads.
The ads you see are not "paid advertising", at all ... they are representative of CONSERVATIVE "personas" -- or like minded persons who don't wear that "label".

6. I don't understand why, if you currently have for-profit status, you would need to justify your budget.
See Bob J's remarks!

7. Until you just mentioned it, I didn't know there were any anti-FR sites.
I've never been to one of them (only went to L.com [not an anti Freeper site, is she?] once ... to see how she had absconded with JR's and therefore FR's format). Had a feeling about "Trixie" before she left FR, and was not a member of her "court" anyway. I don't think that it benefits us to acknowledge in public that they are being watched.

I am not on your or any one else's "case" C G, but these items are largely a part of FR History.

Not only does this person (ME, way below the poverty level in income) keep up with and remember vital pieces of the FR history ... I would be "homeless" online, without FR!

I hereby pledge 5% of every Schipperke that I sell for as long as FR is around -- not a fortune, but I have already had to bow out of a monthly tap on my account. As of tomorrow, I hope that will be about $15.00 on an "old" puppy.

I ALWAYS am terribly guilt ridden at being a "freeloader", in comparison, if nothing else, in this "House of Robinson".

BTW, to whomever it is that refers to "the brothers Robinson", I have never met any of them, but John and Chris are Jim and Sheila's sons and quite young (not that J and S are old).

[elfman2]

…At this point, FR cannot do any of these things [ads] without violating it's FAIR USE claim in the lawsuit. It's been gone over many times…

Thanks for clearing some of that up. What about the Fair Use claim prohibits ads? I would have expected it to be more dependent on the nature of the site itself and/or the corporate structure of the company. If FR was a 501(C)(3) non-profit instead of an LLP, wouldn’t that make any difference? tia